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RE: Intro for use-cases document

From: Nicholas Taylor <ntay@stanford.edu>
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 18:39:20 +0000
To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>, Nick Ruffilo <nickruffilo@gmail.com>
CC: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>, W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
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Hi Nick,

Thanks for the opening draft. I like the poetic gestures toward the value of durability. The archival use cases that in part inform the PWP design are about both 1) ensuring that the next great piece of literature (or, more critically at risk of loss, the long tail) doesn’t just thrive on the open web but also survives and 2) a small, contributory effort toward instilling digital documents or publications with some of the much greater durability that we’ve taken for granted with print artifacts.


From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 10:03 PM
To: Nick Ruffilo <nickruffilo@gmail.com>
Cc: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>; W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Intro for use-cases document

On 7 Jul 2016, at 03:41, Nick Ruffilo <nickruffilo@gmail.com<mailto:nickruffilo@gmail.com>> wrote:


Great feedback - and well put as well.  I'm going to wordsmith it just a bit to make it a little shorter and add it to the introduction.

Much as I like it, I am not sure the first sentence is appropriate for this document. (When I say "I am not sure", I mean literally, and not as a British understatement for "I hate it"!) It will certainly raise eyebrows:-)

I agree with Leonard that addressing the various communities is also important here. Ideally, PWP is not only for publishers (although that is our main constituency) but also communities that, traditionally, are not considered to be publishers but, in fact, they are or becoming ones…

On the practical side, I will put it into the document via github as soon as you feel I should do it.



On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com<mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com>> wrote:
Thanks for sharing this, Nick.

I appreciate the humor of the first line, but the second line strikes me as demonstrating what I believe is one of the key “pivot points” on our work of PWP as we move from theory into practice.

Many of our members/participants are coming from the classical publishing industry – and they wish to continue to have their various needs and uses addressed.
We also have members coming from the web publishing world, where content has different needs and requirements.  And then there are those of us who work with content that are traditionally referred to as documents, rather than publications, where again the needs and requirements differ.

Today our list of use cases and requirements cover all three areas – as I believe it should.  And it’s important, at least IMO, that any introduction address the various avenues that have led us (the DPUB community) to this laundry list.

And as we begin to move beyond the uses to the specifics of how we will get there – we will begin the process of prioritization and focus around them.  And that’s when the fun and fireworks will start ☺.   Hopefully, what will keep us all busy at TPAC.


From: Nick Ruffilo <nickruffilo@gmail.com<mailto:nickruffilo@gmail.com>>
Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 4:36 PM
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Subject: Intro for use-cases document
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I was tasked with writing an intro for the use case document.  I believe Ivan said he would help ensure it got into GitHub correctly, but I figured sending to the entire group wouldn't be a bad thing.

<p>Every 100 years, a piece of literature is written that is so grand, it becomes canon and will be read and studied for countless generations.  This document is not that piece of literature, but the following use cases outline the functionality desired by publishers, authors, and readers to ensure that the next great piece of literature can thrive on the open web.</p>

<p>The printed book has had hundreds of years of refinement, typesetting, and features added to make it an amazing form for conveying both fiction and non-fiction content.  These use-cases outline the requirements of publishers, readers, and authors for being able to consume content on the web that is at least as accessible (or hopefully more accessible) than in print.</p>

Am I missing anything?

- Nick Ruffilo
Aer.io<http://aer.io/> an INGRAM company

- Nick Ruffilo
Aer.io<http://aer.io/> an INGRAM company

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