- From: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 18:07:44 +0100
- To: "public-digipub-ig@w3.org >> W3C Digital Publishing IG" <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
Hi all,
The minutes of the Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference
dated 2015-01-26 are now available at
http://www.w3.org/2015/01/26-dpub-minutes.html
These public minutes are also linked from the dpub wiki
http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Meetings
Also find these minutes in a text version following, for your convenience.
Best,
Thierry Michel
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference
26 Jan 2015
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2015/01/26-dpub-irc
Attendees
Present
Ben de Meester (bjdmeest), Markus Gylling (Markus),
Tzviya Siegman (tzviya),Thierry Michel (tmichel),
Kawakubo (kwkbtr), Karen Myers (Karen_Myers), Rob
Sanderson (azaroth), Dave Cramer (dauwhe), Liam Quin
(Liam), Paul Belfanti (pbelfanti), Charles LaPierre
(clapierre), Alan Stearns (Stearns), Deborah Kaplan
(dkaplan3), David Stroup, Manuel Rego Casasnovas (rego),
Peter Linss (plinss) , Mike Miller (MikeMiller), Heather
Flanagan (HeatherF), mihnea, iank.
Regrets
Phil, Ivan, Luc, Ayla
Chair
Tzviya
Scribe
Markus
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]approval of minutes from last week
2. [5]use cases for Houdini
3. [6]packaging on the web document
* [7]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 26 January 2015
<HeatherF> Ha! Figured out my first zakim instruction!
<tzviya> agenda
<tzviya> * Approval of last week's minutes [1]
[1] http://www.w3.org/
<tzviya> * Use Cases for Houdini (Brady and Markus)
<tzviya> * Introduce and review Packaging on the Web [2]
[2] http://www.w3.org/2015/01/26-dpub-irc
<mgylling> scribe: mgylling
<tzviya> minutes
[8]http://www.w3.org/2015/01/05-dpub-minutes.html
[8] http://www.w3.org/2015/01/05-dpub-minutes.html
approval of minutes from last week
Tzviya: minutes are approved
<liza> YEAH MINUTES!!!
<pkra1> those weren't last week's minutes?
<murakami> [9]http://www.w3.org/2015/01/12-dpub-minutes.html
[9] http://www.w3.org/2015/01/12-dpub-minutes.html
<Vlad> Sorry, I am on the IRC only today
<tzviya> Use Cases for Houdini (Brady and Markus)
use cases for Houdini
<dauwhe> [10]https://wiki.css-houdini.org/explaining-css-layout
[10] https://wiki.css-houdini.org/explaining-css-layout
Tzviya: Brady and Markus has been working on these
<pbelfanti> *Paul waves back to Karen :)
Brady: the update is I am typing right now… Markus did contact
me and mention that we need to have these ready
<david_stroup> I'm 585.217
… I am updating some of the requirements, adding a few more
… and we need to pull out those relating to personalization
… working on pending action items as well
… still hasnt really been looked at by other implementors as
far as I know, Markus have you contacted anyone?
… I am concerned, we should vet it before exposing to CSSWG
Tzviya: there are some RS and browser that I could expose this
to if you are interested
Brady: I think opening this up for comments to any implementor
is fine
<pkra1> +q
Brady: I will try and finish today, and then I’ll ping the list
pkra: for us at MathJax it is very interesting, simply because
polyfilling something as complex as MathML […], the MathML WG
may be interested as well
… re Houdini
Brady: Houdini has a very broad interest base
Tzviya: Brady, you said you’re working on the pagination AND
personalization?
<dauwhe> pkra: have you seen
[11]https://wiki.css-houdini.org/explaining-css-layout? Any
ideas along these lines that would help with Math would be
great.
[11] https://wiki.css-houdini.org/explaining-css-layout?
Brady: I am just moving the personalization stuff, not adding
anything new
Tzviya: we have personalization use cases already… [scrolling]
…. I think we need to clean that up and combine everything
… Markus and I agree to take a look at this re cleanup, anyone
want to help?
Liza: I can do it
<astearns> inasmuch as Houdini may need new hooks for runtime
style modifications, it may open new avenues for
personalization
Tzviya: we should have something to present by early next week
dauwhe: posted a link to part of the wiki mostly for techie
people
… I have a tiny wishlist for DPUB at the bottom
<tzviya> [12]https://wiki.css-houdini.org/explaining-css-layout
[12] https://wiki.css-houdini.org/explaining-css-layout
<murakami> Printing is also usecase of Houdini.
<tzviya> [13]http://w3ctag.github.io/packaging-on-the-web/
[13] http://w3ctag.github.io/packaging-on-the-web/
packaging on the web document
<tzviya> markus: we are looking for a review of the packaging
for the web document
<tzviya> ... from the perspective of DPUB. It is an alrernative
to zip and represents a proposal for multipart MIME
<tzviya> ...IDPF did have a version of multipart MIME, and it
would be interesting to see a comparison of these versions
<liza> Skinnier jeans?
<tzviya> brady: the IDPF multipart MIME from 1999 was rejected
because people were interested only in zip
<tzviya> ...it's a little odd that this came out without
consulting the digital publishing community and asking what was
needed
<tzviya> markus: perhaps now is the time for comments on ed
draft
<tzviya> markus: the idea of native support in browsers is
important
<tzviya> tzviya: perhaps the reason that this is relevant now
is that there is interest in publishing not just "content", but
information beyond content
<tzviya> ...such as data-sets, excel files, programming code...
<tzviya> ...and, as people read on mobile devices, zip is not
the simplest option
<tzviya> ...Proprietary options are becoming available
<tzviya> dauwhe: I read the spec and concluded that I don't
understand packaging
Tzviya: I also read through the spec, and was technically
challenging… like with CFI, if there aren’t tools, it cant
really take off
Dave: helpful if there was a guide for background
<tzviya> dauwhe: it would be helpful to understand why this is
being done now and read some background material
<tzviya> markus: it would be nice to have 1999 version
available for background
<tzviya> ...the authors in 1999 probably had publishing in mind
<tzviya> brady: I will send it out
<tzviya> markus: we will do a coordinated IG response
<astearns> I'll definitely review
<tzviya> reviewers: brady, dave, tzviya, alan
<tzviya> markus: 2 weeks from now, we will revisit Packaging
for Web
<scribe> Scribe: Markus
Heather: will review i18n documentation
<tzviya>
[14]https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/64149/DPUB-STEM-2014-12/
[14] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/64149/DPUB-STEM-2014-12/
pkra: sent out an email with final draft of STEM survey, please
take a look so that we rollout next month as planned
<pkra1> thx
<HeatherF> thanks
Summary of Action Items
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