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Re: FW: Publication request for a FPWD of a future Interest Group Note by the DPUB IG

From: Bill McCoy <bmccoy@idpf.org>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 09:56:34 -0700
Message-ID: <CADMjS0YSpOY906S1GdwD4sC2cA14Rb1735pbdFDF0e65+Gt2tA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Peter Krautzberger <peter.krautzberger@mathjax.org>
Cc: "Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken" <tsiegman@wiley.com>, "DPUB mailing list (public-digipub-ig@w3.org)" <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
Ditto, but it raises a process question for me. Typically W3C WGs, in my
understanding, do not concern themselves much with tracking or lobbying
around implementation status of existing specification features. Thus
section 2.1, and many of the issues in sections 3-9, would not seem to be
within the purview of W3C WG to make progress on, other than perhaps for
the corner case of making known the importance to the publishing community
of thinly-implemented features that might otherwise become candidates for
deprecation or removal. Of course the browser vendors participate in the
WGs so it's great to use that forum as a means to make these issues known
and helpful to see them in the overall prioritization but it seems what we
really want out of CSS WG is progress on the issues in section 2.2 and 2.3.

I may be incorrect about this but, if not. it leads to the question of
whether the group should consider additional means beyond CSS WG to lobby
browser vendors to better meet these identified needs of the publishing
community. For example, I understand that W3C is having periodic meetings
with browser vendors, although I don't know if the agendas include lobbying
for the needs of particular market segments.

It also raises a more trivial question of whether the document in its
current form could be more clear in what we are asking of the CSS WG.
Personally, I found the mixing of implementation gaps with missing
specification features a bit confusing in the detail sections (3-9). It
could perhaps be clarified if the issues in these sections were either
color-coded differently or had some designation (e.g. *I*/*S*/*D*).
Actually I see there being some gray area between "spec" and "design" so it
might be sufficient to show it as two buckets.

--Bill


On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Peter Krautzberger <
peter.krautzberger@mathjax.org> wrote:

> > Thanks to Dave for his incredible work on publishing DPUB's Priorities
> for CSS!
>
> +1
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken <
> tsiegman@wiley.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks to Dave for his incredible work on publishing DPUB's Priorities
>> for CSS!
>> http://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/4938
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-dpub-css-priorities-20150820/
>>
>>
>> Tzviya Siegman
>> Digital Book Standards & Capabilities Lead
>> Wiley
>> 201-748-6884
>> tsiegman@wiley.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Denis Ah-Kang [mailto:denis@w3.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 11:44 AM
>> To: Ivan Herman; Webreq
>> Cc: W3C Communication Team; Thierry Michel; Chris Lilley; Ralph Swick;
>> Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken; Markus Gylling; Dave Cramer
>> Subject: Re: Publication request for a FPWD of a future Interest Group
>> Note by the DPUB IG
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> The document has been published on http://www.w3.org/TR/ and news is
>> available at http://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/4938.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Maria and Denis
>>
>> On 08/18/2015 10:45 AM, Ivan Herman wrote:
>> > Denis,
>> >
>> > This is an official publication request for the publication a document
>> for the DPUB IG on Thursday the 17th of August. The document, in final
>> form, is on github (see address below) but I will put it onto TR and check
>> it later today. The documents is as follows:
>> >
>> > Priorities for CSS from the Digital Publishing Interest Group
>> >
>> > Proposed publication date: 20 August, 2015 Current Editor's draft is
>> > at: http://w3c.github.io/dpub-pagination/priorities.html
>> > Undated URI: http://www.w3.org/TR/dpub-css-priorities/
>> > Dated URI: http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-dpub-css-priorities-20150820/
>> >
>> > Abstract
>> >     This document documents CSS features needed by the digital
>> publishing community, as determined by the W3C Digital Publishing Interest
>> Group.
>> >
>> > Proposed SOTD
>> >     See: http://w3c.github.io/dpub-pagination/priorities.html#status
>> >
>> > The request for approval has been sent to the Domain Lead[1] and hope
>> to get the approval later today.
>> >
>> > We apologize for the rush, but there is a publishing moratorium next
>> week… on the other hand, there is a CSS Houdini Face-to-face coming up next
>> week in Paris, and it would be helpful to have this document being
>> published by then.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Ivan
>> >
>> > [1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Team/team-ink/2015Aug/0047.html
>> >
>> >
>> > ----
>> > Ivan Herman, W3C
>> > Digital Publishing Activity Lead
>> > Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
>> > mobile: +31-641044153
>> > ORCID ID: http://orcid.org/0000-0003-0782-2704
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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