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Re: Relationship between W3C and IDPF, for this work?

From: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:34:40 +0000
To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
CC: W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>, Bill McCoy <whmccoy@gmail.com>, Ralph Swick <swick@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CDF0A19E-FDE6-43C7-987F-007AF013201C@adobe.com>
I am trying to understand why there is a need to force EPUB as the solution to a series of developing problem statements.

If this group is simply serving as a conduit for moving standardization of EPUB from IDPF to W3C - which may or not be a good thing - then change the name and charter of the group to specifically focus on that.  And then move all of the other work - CSS for publishing, packaging of the web, etc. - to other non-biased groups.

On the other hand, if this group is truly about focusing on delivering solutions to customers/users in the area of improved publishing using OWP technologies, then we should (as I stated on the call yesterday) be starting from scratch and focus on how to deliver these solutions.

Of course, this also leads to the obvious question of who are the customers of this work?  Certainly, there are folks already represented from traditional publishing avenues (books, magazines, and even technical pubs).   What is missing, IMO, are all the other types of folks who wish to publish content digitally - from the internal-only enterprise content to the church secretary sending out the monthly newsletter.  The requirements of the former do not match those of the latter and the positions on the call yesterday of “but we already have tools” goes directly against these customers who have nothing today. 

As I mentioned yesterday - I have nothing against EPUB - I think it’s an excellent solution for the customer base for which it was designed.  And I think that it, and it’s customers, should continue to help drive requirements for improved publishing of OWP content.  HOWEVER, they are not the only customers for such things and therefore their needs should not be the only ones driving directions.

Leonard



On 8/11/15, 5:40 AM, "Ivan Herman" <ivan@w3.org> wrote:

>I do not think there is a written, formal document on this. However, the group itself has been set up in a strong cooperation with IDPF, accompanied by a numerous presentations, public panels, a series of joint workshops that actually led to the creation of this activity, or a joint participation in the EDUPUB initiative.  All that is also been reinforced in the current charter proposal and the mutual memberships of the two organization.
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>Is there anything specific you are looking for?
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>Ivan
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>> On 10 Aug 2015, at 18:01 , Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com> wrote:
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>> Can someone point me to a document that details the exact relationship between the IDPF and the W3C as it relates to the work of this group?
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>> Thanks,
>> Leonard
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