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Re: [METADATA] Governance/authority (ISSUE-2)

From: LAURA DAWSON <ljndawson@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 18:11:39 -0400
To: "Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken" <tsiegman@wiley.com>, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
CC: W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>, Bill Kasdorf <bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com>, Madi Weland Solomon <madi.solomon@pearson.com>
Message-ID: <D03CDAAB.7EF35%ljndawson@gmail.com>
Yes, and I wouldnıt expect the retail sites to change that. How they
ingest data and express it on their sites is at the core of the value each
retailer brings to the table - itıs a competitive issue and each retailer
is convinced they do it best. (Drawn from my experience at having worked
for one - B&N - and consulted to several others.)

I can tell you also, from my experience at Bowker, that the lack of
conformance in media data is a windmill worth tilting at (because it makes
the data better overall), but we need to understand weıll probably never
really defeat it, and address the problems non-conformance causes with
that perspective.

Page count is another one of those troublesome fields. :)

On 9/15/14, 4:49 PM, "Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken" <tsiegman@wiley.com>

>Hi Ivan,
>The concern is that there are several organizations already very much
>involved in overseeing metadata, but there is a great lack of
>consistency.  Bill and Madi's interviewees expressed concern about
>consistency and conformance. This is perhaps out of scope for W3C, but it
>is one of the biggest pain points mentioned.
>This was the issue that Madi noted as largest problem [1]. One example is
>that there is not even agreement about how to indicate publication dates
>in metadata. 
>This is apparent from the interviews Bill did as well. Comments like
>"Another big problem: every retailer site has its own ingestion engine,
>its own specifications."
>[1] http://w3c.github.io/dpub-metadata/#governance-100
>Tzviya Siegman * Digital Book Standards & Capabilities Lead * John Wiley
>& Sons, Inc.
>111 River Street, MS 5-02 * Hoboken, NJ 07030-5774 * 201-748-6884 *
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org]
>Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 4:59 AM
>To: Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken
>Cc: W3C Digital Publishing IG; Bill Kasdorf; Madi Weland Solomon
>Subject: [METADATA] Governance/authority (ISSUE-2)
>Hi Tzviya,
>the description of ISSUE-2[1] is currently empty. (It only has a title,
>in the subject of this mail)
>I am not sure I really understand the issue, though, although it has been
>mentioned in various interviews. If it is what I think it is, ie, who
>controls/defines/specifies the various vocabularies, I doubt that is an
>OWP or, more generally, a W3C issue at the moment. That being said, it
>may be dependent on other works we may want to initiate (e.g., schema.org
>relations). But even in that case, W3C would probably not want to act
>(and therefore 'govern') alone...
>What do I miss?
>[1] https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/track/issues/2
>Ivan Herman, W3C 
>Digital Publishing Activity Lead
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