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Re: An unexpected usage of EPUB:-)

From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:37:58 +0100
Cc: Livio Mondini <l.mondini@webprofession.com>, W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
Message-Id: <22F4E9C4-F08D-43C8-BC25-47EC85E58239@w3.org>
To: Thierry Michel <tmichel@w3.org>

> On 19 Nov 2014, at 16:16 , Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
> 
> There are also extensions for MS word to produce EPUB.
> Aspose.Words is one
> 
> http://www.aspose.com/.net/word-component.aspx

Works only in windows, I run Word on Mac...

> 
> and there are probably others.
> 
> As for Microsoft I am not aware of any MS extension for EPUB.
> I am not a MS Office user.

Me neither, and if I have to use it, I use the Mac version (which is, afaik, a slightly different one)

Ivan

> 
> Thierry.
> 
> On 19/11/2014 15:58, Ivan Herman wrote:
>> I wonder whether Microsoft has plans to produce EPUB export... Alas!, most of the people out there still use Word, so that would be very important...
>> 
>> Ivan
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Nov 2014, at 15:53 , Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 19/11/2014 15:49, Ivan Herman wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 19 Nov 2014, at 15:25 , Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> FYI, Libre Office has also various export format.
>>>>> ODF, Word, HTML, XHTML, PDF and DocBook (XML)
>>>>> but no EPUB output initially.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But for Libre Office and Open Office,  "Writer2ePub" is an OpenOffice.org extension that creates an ePub file from any document openable by the OOo Word Processor
>>>>> http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/writer2epub
>>>> 
>>>> Ah, that is great! I have tested in LibreOffice with the same document and it works. The HTML content is just as good as Page's (actually, it seems that the list is done better). However, the validator came up with an error:
>>>> 
>>>> element "navMap" incomplete; missing required element "navPoint" (for toc.ncx)
>>>> 
>>>> I wonder whether this is indeed an EPUB3 error, somebody should tell me...
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the info Thierry!
>>> 
>>> Not only Apple does the job, open source is also active ;-)
>>> 
>>> Thierry
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Note that for Libre Office, another extension "Writer2xhtml"l is a collection of export filters to EPUB, HTML5, XHTML and XHTML+MathML
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thierry
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 19/11/2014 14:48, Ivan Herman wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 19 Nov 2014, at 14:25 , Livio Mondini <l.mondini@webprofession.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I agree, many blind people that i know do the same finding much more confortable with HTML. But have you looked at what sort of html Pages generate?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You mean the HTML as part of the EPUB file? At first glance it looks pretty clean, nothing to do with the horrible HTML Word generates. CSS is used properly (actually, factored out into a separate file); the only unclean thing I found was that a list was not translated into a <ul><li>...</ul> structure but to <p>-s with appropriate CSS styling. But it may well be that the original Pages did not use a proper listing either, I have not checked.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ivan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Livio
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> I realized today a strange thing when using Mac' Pages program (that is a Word-like program for Mac, produced by Apple, although infinitely simpler than Word). Pages has various export functionalities. To my surprise, it does not have an HTML export; to my even greater (and pleasant) surprise, it has an EPUB export. Which makes sense if the document contains drawings, for example.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is pretty much in line with our thoughts on epub.next, and also has a side effect. If one wants simply an HTML from a text only page, then generate the EPUB, unzip it, and there you have the HTML...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ivan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C
>>>>>>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead
>>>>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
>>>>>>> mobile: +31-641044153
>>>>>>> ORCID ID: http://orcid.org/0000-0003-0782-2704
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----
>>>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C
>>>>>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead
>>>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
>>>>>> mobile: +31-641044153
>>>>>> ORCID ID: http://orcid.org/0000-0003-0782-2704
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----
>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C
>>>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead
>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
>>>> mobile: +31-641044153
>>>> ORCID ID: http://orcid.org/0000-0003-0782-2704
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> ----
>> Ivan Herman, W3C
>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead
>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
>> mobile: +31-641044153
>> ORCID ID: http://orcid.org/0000-0003-0782-2704
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 


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Ivan Herman, W3C
Digital Publishing Activity Lead
Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
mobile: +31-641044153
ORCID ID: http://orcid.org/0000-0003-0782-2704





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