Re: draft agenda, DPUB IG concall January 6th 2014

RE: " what sort of design/typography/pagination problems people are having
with ebooks."

1. Proper design treatments for print layouts when the ebook has a more
limited layout-e.g.,  marginal notes. Marginal notes are widely used in
print titles and are fairly effective but render horribly in most ebooks
because many ebook readers and/or CSS designers designing for those readers
do not support major/minor columns. as a result, marginal notes are often
placed after a paragraph instead of beside a paragraph, and between that
and losing formatting hints as to what they are, they completely confuse
the reader.

2. Captions not staying on same page with images

3. Portrait layout images that make stunning chapter openers in print but
are very diminished/diminutive/un-impressive in digital when reader is
reading in landscape mode

4. sophisticated alignment in tables (e.g., align on decimal)






On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Tom De Nies <tom.denies@ugent.be> wrote:

> regrets for this week.
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> Tom
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> 2014/1/6 Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken <tsiegman@wiley.com>
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> Hi Dave,
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>> I can scribe.
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>> +1 on Luc’s comments.
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>> Tables: similar issues to tables (keep with caption, avoid breaks) +
>> aligning on char/location within column (beyond right-align, etc.)
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>> Tzviya
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>> *From:* AUDRAIN LUC [mailto:LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr]
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 06, 2014 4:14 AM
>> *To:* Cramer, Dave; Markus Gylling; public-digipub-ig@w3.org
>> *Subject:* RE: draft agenda, DPUB IG concall January 6th 2014
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>> Hi Dave,
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>> About design/typography/pagination problems in ebooks, here is my list :
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>> In Reflowable EPUBs
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>> -        Horizontal justification of text : a good composition engine,
>> please!
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>> -        Hyphenation with proper language dictionary exceptions
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>> -        Vertical justification with respect to widows/orphans, titles
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>> -        Headers and footers
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>> -        Footnotes in popups
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>> In Fixed Layout EPUBs
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>> -        Absolute positioning of text at character level
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>> Best regards,
>> Luc
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>> *De :* Cramer, Dave [mailto:Dave.Cramer@hbgusa.com<Dave.Cramer@hbgusa.com>]
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>> *Envoyé :* lundi 6 janvier 2014 02:19
>> *À :* Markus Gylling; public-digipub-ig@w3.org
>> *Objet :* Re: draft agenda, DPUB IG concall January 6th 2014
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>> On 1/3/14 11:58 AM, "Markus Gylling" <markus.gylling@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hi all,
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>> below is a draft agenda for the coming Monday's IG concall, which will be
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>> held at 16:00 UTC [0] (08:00 PST, 17:00 CET, 11:00 EST, 01:00 Tokyo).
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>> We are looking for a volunteer scribe. If you are willing to do the
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>> minuting, please reply to this email and say so.
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>> Agenda
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>> -------------------------------------------------
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>> - Approval of previous meeting minutes [1]
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>> - Admin issues
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>> - CSS Shapes: review summary & crafting reply [11]
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>> - This weeks focus theme: latinReq (on: Dave et. al.) [9]
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>> For our discussion tomorrow, I'd like to hear what sort of
>> design/typography/pagination problems people are having with ebooks. Some
>> examples from my experience:
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>> A. Drop caps—getting proper alignment across devices, changing fonts, and
>> changing font sizes is nearly impossible.
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>> B. Image sizing, and the related issue of keeping a caption with the
>> image it describes
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>> I thought this might be a useful way to figure out some subjects we need
>> to cover. Of course, you're free to bring up any ideas at all during the
>> call.
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>> Thanks,
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>> Dave
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>> - Theme for next meeting (cf. all taskforces summary on wiki [10])
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>> - AOB
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>> Joining the telcon
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>> Resources that you may need to read to prepare this meeting
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>> * Digital Publishing Interest Group home page
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>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/
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>> * Digital Publishing Interest Group Wiki
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>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Main_Page
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>> * Digital Publishing Interest Group Charter
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>> http://www.w3.org/2013/02/digpubig.html
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>> * Report from previous ebook workshop February 2013 in New York
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>> http://www.w3.org/2012/08/electronic-books/rapportebook.html
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>> * Report from previous ebook workshop  June 2013 in Tokyo,
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>> https://www.w3.org/2013/06/ebooks/report.php
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>> and ordered list of issues
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>> https://www.w3.org/2013/06/ebooks/report.php#issues
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>> * Report of informal W3C telecon on ebooks and CSS, held at 22 March,
>> 2013.
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>> http://www.w3.org/wiki/Ebook_css_informal_discussion
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>> [0]
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>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=01&day=6&year=2014&hour=16&min=00&sec=0&p1=0
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>> [1]
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2013Dec/0064.html
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>> [2] http://www.w3.org/2006/tools/wiki/Zakim-SIP
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>> [3] http://www.w3.org/2006/tools/wiki/Zakim-SIP-tips
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>> [4] http://www.w3.org/Project/IRC/
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>> [5] http://www.w3.org/Project/IRC/#Client
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>> [6] http://irc.w3.org/
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>> [7] http://www.w3.org/2002/01/UsingZakim
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>> [8] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Scribe-schedule#CG_Scribe_list
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>> [9] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Task_Forces/Latinreq
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>> [10]http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Task_Forces
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>> [11]
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2013Dec/0042.html
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