RE: [metadata] What do publishers need to know?

Dear Dave and all,

That's exactly what I mean about this second face of metadata, and I agree with you about the confusion between several schemes available.
This is where the W3C is supposed to help us publishers, isn't it? And in the end, what we will use for content metadata tagging will be made available in EPUB3 to readers through Readium.

Luc

De : Cramer, Dave [mailto:Dave.Cramer@hbgusa.com]
Envoyé : mardi 4 février 2014 21:29
À : Gerardo Capiel; Cramer, Dave; W3C Digital Publishing IG
Objet : Re: [metadata] What do publishers need to know?

Thanks Gerardo! Very interesting example.

I've found some discussions [1] that suggest that schema.org's position has evolved somewhat [2] since the FAQ was written.

The whole article at [1] is interesting.

Dave (like all of us, just a bit player in Hixie's universe)

[1] http://manu.sporny.org/2013/microdata-downward-spiral/#comment-2957
[2] http://blog.schema.org/2012/06/semtech-rdfa-microdata-and-more.html

On 2/4/14 2:33 PM, "Gerardo Capiel" <gerardoc@benetech.org<mailto:gerardoc@benetech.org>> wrote:

This link may be useful regarding whether to use microdata, RDFa, etc:

http://schema.org/docs/faq.html#14

We're using microdata on Bookshare:

http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/richsnippets?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bookshare.org%2Fbrowse%2Fbook%2F162937<http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/richsnippets?q=https://www.bookshare.org/browse/book/162937>

Gerardo

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On Feb 4, 2014, at 10:53 AM, "Cramer, Dave" <Dave.Cramer@hbgusa.com<mailto:Dave.Cramer@hbgusa.com>>
 wrote:


A major source of confusion for the newcomer is the multiplicity of standards and concepts involved in adding metadata to HTML. It's easy to be disoriented by RDF, RDFa and RDFa Lite. I always confuse microformats and microdata. Is a friend of a friend a turtle or an owl? And is it really namespaces all the way down?

More concretely, Microformats and RDFa Lite appear to be nearly identical in functionality. Reading about the politics surrounding these specs does not fill me with confidence[1]. If  WHATWG, W3C and IDPF can't sort this out, what are we supposed to do?

I think this interest group could do an immense amount of good if it could educate the publishing community about the principles and practices of the semantic web. What do we need to know?

Dave

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Nov/0180.html





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