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RE: Behavioral Adpational Content cases

From: Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken <tsiegman@wiley.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 09:05:12 -0500
To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
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Thanks Ivan,

To my knowledge, epubcfi is not yet widely used. My impression is that this is primarily because there is not a tool to generate cfis, and manually creating them is cumbersome. Markus, is this your impression as well? 

I think a discussion of identifiers and fragment identifiers affects many areas (annotations, some areas of pagination - especially as we consider corrections/updates) and merits further exploration. 

Apologies for not including a link the EPUB Indexing spec [1]. This spec is still in draft form. 

The LOC public vocabulary was not considered in the IDPF spec, but it looks quite promising. The EPUB spec does establish a method for creating categories of index terms within an EPUB. Using an existing vocabulary for these terms would be excellent. 

[1] http://carpeindexum.com/idpf/spec_test/build/epub-indexes.html 
Tzviya Siegman * Senior Content Technology Specialist * John Wiley & Sons, Inc.
111 River Street, MS 5-02 * Hoboken, NJ 07030-5774 * 201-748-6884 * tsiegman@wiley.com

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From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org] 
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To: Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken
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Subject: Re: Behavioral Adpational Content cases

Tzviya, others,

Two comments (there should be more, of course...)

there is a common (obvious) thread through the examples, and that is the identification of text ranges in terms of, say, a URI that can then be used by vocabularies and others. The question I have is: how widely is epubcfi[1] used, implemented? What are the experiences with it? After all, on paper, it gives a way to identify ranges, which seems to be part of the problems (orthogonal to the issue we began to discuss yesterday on having a URI for the book instance itself; epubcfi could then be combined with such an ID I presume).

This question is important because, at this moment, epubcfi is confined to ePUB structures, and cannot be used directly to cover a similar problem in an on-line magazine, for example (which is also in our interest...). This IG _may_ conclude that a separate specification, defining some sort of a fragment ID for HTML5 in general, is necessary. To be clear, at this moment no such group exists (it is currently not in scope of the HTML5 WG), so it may require a new group to be set up probably at W3C. Which is all right, if there is an interest for it, but that has to be thoroughly documented...

I also have another question. I know there are efforts at the moment at IDPF on indexing although, shame on me, I do not know the details. Has there been any thought of providing some canonical approach to access external categories, terminologies, established by others. As an example, there is a public vocabulary (using SKOS) established by the LoC[2], which can be used as basic terminology by everyone (and is also used by libraries, afaik), and it would be good if (e)books could directly refer to those when appropriate...



[1] http://www.idpf.org/epub/linking/cfi/epub-cfi.html
[2] http://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects.html see, eg, http://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/sh85077507.html for the subject heading 'literature'

On Nov 4, 2013, at 22:00 , "Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken" <tsiegman@wiley.com> wrote:

> Hi DPUB,
> Thanks to Ivan for helping me with my wiki woes. I have begun posting use cases about behavioral adaptional content. (aside: adaptional is not a word. Can we switch to adaptive?)
> Please take a look, add your comments and your use cases. I will add more cases as time allows this week.
> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/StructSem_UC
> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Behavioral_UC#Behavioral_1
> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Behavioral_UC2#Behavioral_2
> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Behavioral_UC3#Behavioral_3
> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Behavioral_UC4#Behavioral_4
> One more wiki issue - how does one get HTML tags display? I'm not writing in HTML, just trying to include some sample tags in the body of the use case, but the wiki is interpreting the tags as markup.
> Tzviya
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> Tzviya Siegman * Senior Content Technology Specialist * John Wiley & Sons, Inc.
> 111 River Street, MS 5-02 * Hoboken, NJ 07030-5774 * 201-748-6884 * tsiegman@wiley.com

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