- From: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 16:03:57 +0200
- To: public-digipub-ig@w3.org
Hi all,
The minutes of the Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference
dated 2013-08-06 are now available at
https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dpub/2013-08-06
These public minutes are also linked from the dpub wiki
http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/
Also find these minutes in a text version following, for your convenience.
Thank you for your attendance yesterday.
We are looking for a scribe for next week. Please volunteer, we will
help you in this task.
Best,
Thierry Michel
***********************************************************
Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference
Minutes of 06 August 2013
Seen
[2]Bert Bos, [3]Frederick Hirsch, [4]George Kerscher,
[5]Hajar Sigarchian, [6]Ivan Herman, [7]Jean Kaplansky,
[8]Karen Myers, [9]Liam Quin, [10]Madi Solomon,
[11]Markus Gylling, [12]Miel Vander Sande, [13]Peter
Linss, [14]Robert Sanderson, [15]Seth SL, [16]Sharad
Garg, [17]Thierry Michel, [18]Tom De Nies, [19]Tyng-Ruey
Chuang
[2] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bert_Bos
[3] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Frederick_Hirsch
[4] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/George_Kerscher
[5] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Hajar_Sigarchian
[6] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
[7] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Jean_Kaplansky
[8] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers
[9] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Liam_Quin
[10] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Madi_Solomon
[11] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
[12] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Miel_Vander_Sande
[13] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Peter_Linss
[14] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson
[15] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Seth_SL
[16] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Sharad_Garg
[17] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel
[18] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Tom_De_Nies
[19] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Tyng-Ruey_Chuang
Guests
[20]Karen Myers, [21]Robert Sanderson, [22]Tyng-Ruey
Chuang, [23]Jean Kaplansky, [24]Seth SL, [25]Hajar
Sigarchian
[20] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers
[21] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson
[22] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Tyng-Ruey_Chuang
[23] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Jean_Kaplansky
[24] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Seth_SL
[25] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Hajar_Sigarchian
Chair
[26]Markus Gylling
[26] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
Scribe
[27]Karen Myers
[27] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers
IRC Log
[28]Original
[28] http://www.w3.org/2013/08/06-dpub-irc
Resolutions
None.
Topics
<sandro> Guest: Karen Myers
<sandro> Guest: Robert (azaroth) Sanderson
<sandro> Guest: Tyng-Ruey (trc) Chuang
<sandro> Guest: Jean Kaplansky
<sandro> Guest: Seth SL
<sandro> Guest: Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian
13:58:07 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/08/06-dpub-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to
[29]http://www.w3.org/2013/08/06-dpub-irc [30]←
13:58:09 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs 61
[29] http://www.w3.org/2013/08/06-dpub-irc
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs 61 [31]←
13:58:11 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be dpub_ig
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be dpub_ig [32]←
13:58:11 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled
within the next hour, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: I do not see a conference matching that name
scheduled within the next hour, trackbot [33]←
13:58:12 <trackbot> Meeting: Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconfe
rence
13:58:12 <trackbot> Date: 06 August 2013
13:58:58 <ivan> zakim, this will be digpub
[34]Ivan Herman: zakim, this will be digpub [35]←
13:58:58 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled
within the next hour, ivan
[34] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
Zakim IRC Bot: I do not see a conference matching that name
scheduled within the next hour, ivan [36]←
14:01:18 <ivan> zakim, this will be dpub
[37]Ivan Herman: zakim, this will be dpub [38]←
14:01:18 <Zakim> ok, ivan; I see SW_DPUB-IG()11:00AM scheduled to start
in 59 minutes
[37] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; I see SW_DPUB-IG()11:00AM scheduled to
start in 59 minutes [39]←
14:04:00 <ivan> RRSagent, set log public
[40]Ivan Herman: RRSagent, set log public [41]←
14:32:14 <azaroth> Good morning all :)
[40] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
(No events recorded for 28 minutes)
[42]Robert Sanderson: Good morning all :) [43]←
14:32:46 <azaroth> Call is in 30 minutes, yes?
[42] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson
[44]Robert Sanderson: Call is in 30 minutes, yes? [45]←
14:35:18 <liam> welcome, azaroth
[44] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson
[46]Liam Quin: welcome, azaroth [47]←
14:36:40 <azaroth> Thanks Liam!
[46] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Liam_Quin
[48]Robert Sanderson: Thanks Liam! [49]←
14:56:32 <madi> Hello!
[48] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson
(No events recorded for 19 minutes)
[50]Madi Solomon: Hello! [51]←
14:57:06 <mgylling> madi, hi
[50] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Madi_Solomon
[52]Markus Gylling: madi, hi [53]←
14:57:40 <Zakim> SW_DPUB-IG()11:00AM has now started
[52] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_DPUB-IG()11:00AM has now started [54]←
14:57:42 <Zakim> + +1.212.389.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.212.389.aaaa [55]←
14:57:59 <Zakim> - +1.212.389.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.212.389.aaaa [56]←
14:58:01 <Zakim> SW_DPUB-IG()11:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_DPUB-IG()11:00AM has ended [57]←
14:58:01 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.212.389.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.212.389.aaaa [58]←
14:58:14 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
[59]Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip [60]←
14:58:14 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
[59] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; the call is being made [61]←
14:58:15 <Zakim> SW_DPUB-IG()11:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_DPUB-IG()11:00AM has now started [62]←
14:58:16 <Zakim> +Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan [63]←
14:58:47 <Zakim> +mgylling
Zakim IRC Bot: +mgylling [64]←
14:58:51 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan [65]←
14:58:52 <Zakim> +Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan [66]←
14:58:59 <Zakim> + +1.505.665.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.505.665.aaaa [67]←
14:59:26 <ivan> zakim, aaaa is azaroth
[68]Ivan Herman: zakim, aaaa is azaroth [69]←
14:59:27 <Zakim> +azaroth; got it
[68] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
Zakim IRC Bot: +azaroth; got it [70]←
15:00:32 <madi> must change phones. Can't use Skype to dial in, no cred
it. Odd.
[71]Madi Solomon: must change phones. Can't use Skype to dial
in, no credit. Odd. [72]←
15:00:33 <Zakim> + +88626614aabb
[71] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Madi_Solomon
Zakim IRC Bot: + +88626614aabb [73]←
15:01:11 <Zakim> +Bert
Zakim IRC Bot: +Bert [74]←
15:01:14 <Zakim> + +1.212.389.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.212.389.aacc [75]←
15:01:18 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] [76]←
15:01:20 <Zakim> + +329331aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +329331aadd [77]←
15:01:28 <karen_> zakim, IPcaller is Karen
[78]Karen Myers: zakim, IPcaller is Karen [79]←
15:01:28 <Zakim> +Karen; got it
[78] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers
Zakim IRC Bot: +Karen; got it [80]←
15:01:31 <Zakim> +plinss
Zakim IRC Bot: +plinss [81]←
15:01:34 <TomDN> Zakim, +32 is me
[82]Tom De Nies: Zakim, +32 is me [83]←
15:01:34 <Zakim> +TomDN; got it
[82] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Tom_De_Nies
Zakim IRC Bot: +TomDN; got it [84]←
15:01:37 <karen_> Chair: Markus Gylling
15:01:39 <TomDN> Zakim, mute me
[85]Tom De Nies: Zakim, mute me [86]←
15:01:39 <Zakim> TomDN should now be muted
[85] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Tom_De_Nies
Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN should now be muted [87]←
15:01:41 <karen_> Scribe: Karen
(Scribe set to [88]Karen Myers)
15:01:56 <trc> Hi, this is Tyng-Ruey Chuang. Nick trc.
[88] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers
[89]Tyng-Ruey Chuang: Hi, this is Tyng-Ruey Chuang. Nick trc.
[90]←
15:02:03 <TomDN> Zakim, Hajar is with TomDN
[89] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Tyng-Ruey_Chuang
[91]Tom De Nies: Zakim, Hajar is with TomDN [92]←
15:02:04 <Zakim> +Hajar; got it
[91] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Tom_De_Nies
Zakim IRC Bot: +Hajar; got it [93]←
15:02:04 <Zakim> +??P25
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P25 [94]←
15:02:05 <Zakim> +Madi
Zakim IRC Bot: +Madi [95]←
15:02:08 <ivan> zakim, aabb is trc
[96]Ivan Herman: zakim, aabb is trc [97]←
15:02:08 <Zakim> +trc; got it
[96] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
Zakim IRC Bot: +trc; got it [98]←
15:02:16 <TomDN> Zakim, mielvds is with TomDN
[99]Tom De Nies: Zakim, mielvds is with TomDN [100]←
15:02:16 <Zakim> +mielvds; got it
[99] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Tom_De_Nies
Zakim IRC Bot: +mielvds; got it [101]←
15:02:20 <tmichel> zakim, ??P25 is me
[102]Thierry Michel: zakim, ??P25 is me [103]←
15:02:20 <Zakim> +tmichel; got it
[102] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel
Zakim IRC Bot: +tmichel; got it [104]←
15:02:24 <Zakim> +George_Kerscher
Zakim IRC Bot: +George_Kerscher [105]←
15:02:29 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
[106]Ivan Herman: zakim, who is here? [107]←
15:02:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ivan, mgylling, azaroth, trc, Bert,
+1.212.389.aacc, Karen, TomDN (muted), plinss, tmichel, Madi, George_Ker
scher
[106] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Ivan, mgylling, azaroth, trc,
Bert, +1.212.389.aacc, Karen, TomDN (muted), plinss, tmichel,
Madi, George_Kerscher [108]←
15:02:32 <Zakim> TomDN has TomDN, Hajar, mielvds
Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN has TomDN, Hajar, mielvds [109]←
15:02:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see Hajar, mielvds, tmichel, Bert, TomDN, kare
n_, fjh, madi, mgylling, trc, azaroth, Zakim, RRSAgent, liam, ivan, trac
kbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Hajar, mielvds, tmichel, Bert,
TomDN, karen_, fjh, madi, mgylling, trc, azaroth, Zakim,
RRSAgent, liam, ivan, trackbot, sandro [110]←
15:03:26 <Zakim> + +1.503.456.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.503.456.aaee [111]←
15:03:40 <fjh> Present+ Frederick_Hirsch
[112]Frederick Hirsch: Present+ Frederick_Hirsch [113]←
15:04:25 <karen_> zakim, 1.212.389.aacc is Seth Seigel-Laddy
[112] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Frederick_Hirsch
zakim, 1.212.389.aacc is Seth Seigel-Laddy [114]←
15:04:25 <Zakim> I don't understand '1.212.389.aacc is Seth Seigel-Laddy
', karen_
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand '1.212.389.aacc is Seth
Seigel-Laddy', karen_ [115]←
15:04:35 <Zakim> + +1.518.581.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.518.581.aaff [116]←
15:04:39 <ivan> zakim, aaccc is SethSL
[117]Ivan Herman: zakim, aaccc is SethSL [118]←
15:04:39 <Zakim> sorry, ivan, I do not recognize a party named 'aaccc'
[117] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, ivan, I do not recognize a party named
'aaccc' [119]←
15:04:46 <mgylling> Zakim, aacc is SethSL
[120]Markus Gylling: Zakim, aacc is SethSL [121]←
15:04:46 <Zakim> +SethSL; got it
[120] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
Zakim IRC Bot: +SethSL; got it [122]←
15:04:48 <SethSL> 212.389 is me... SethSL = Seth Seigel-Laddy
[123]Seth SL: 212.389 is me... SethSL = Seth Seigel-Laddy
[124]←
15:05:02 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
[123] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Seth_SL
[125]Ivan Herman: zakim, who is here? [126]←
15:05:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ivan, mgylling, azaroth, trc, Bert,
SethSL, Karen, TomDN (muted), plinss, tmichel, Madi, George_Kerscher, +1
.503.456.aaee, +1.518.581.aaff
[125] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Ivan, mgylling, azaroth, trc,
Bert, SethSL, Karen, TomDN (muted), plinss, tmichel, Madi,
George_Kerscher, +1.503.456.aaee, +1.518.581.aaff [127]←
15:05:05 <Zakim> TomDN has TomDN, Hajar, mielvds
Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN has TomDN, Hajar, mielvds [128]←
15:05:05 <Zakim> On IRC I see Sharad, SethSL, plinss, Hajar, mielvds, tm
ichel, Bert, TomDN, karen_, fjh, madi, mgylling, trc, azaroth, Zakim, RR
SAgent, liam, ivan, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Sharad, SethSL, plinss, Hajar,
mielvds, tmichel, Bert, TomDN, karen_, fjh, madi, mgylling,
trc, azaroth, Zakim, RRSAgent, liam, ivan, trackbot, sandro
[129]←
15:05:39 <mgylling> Zakim, aaff is Jean Kaplansky
[130]Markus Gylling: Zakim, aaff is Jean Kaplansky [131]←
15:05:39 <Zakim> I don't understand 'aaff is Jean Kaplansky', mgylling
[130] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'aaff is Jean Kaplansky',
mgylling [132]←
15:06:17 <ivan> zakim, aaee is Sharad
[133]Ivan Herman: zakim, aaee is Sharad [134]←
15:06:17 <Zakim> +Sharad; got it
[133] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sharad; got it [135]←
15:06:56 <mgylling> zakim, aaff is JeanKaplansky
[136]Markus Gylling: zakim, aaff is JeanKaplansky [137]←
15:06:56 <Zakim> +JeanKaplansky; got it
[136] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
Zakim IRC Bot: +JeanKaplansky; got it [138]←
15:07:20 <karen_> Ivan: handing chair back to Markus
[139]Ivan Herman: handing chair back to Markus [140]←
15:07:22 <ivan> zakim, who is noisy?
[139] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
[141]Ivan Herman: zakim, who is noisy? [142]←
15:07:22 <mgylling> zakim, who is noisy?
[141] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
[143]Markus Gylling: zakim, who is noisy? [144]←
15:07:32 <Zakim> ivan, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the f
ollowing: mgylling (35%), Ivan (29%)
[143] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
Zakim IRC Bot: ivan, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound
from the following: mgylling (35%), Ivan (29%) [145]←
15:07:43 <Zakim> mgylling, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from t
he following: mgylling (34%), trc (4%), Bert (6%), Ivan (36%)
Zakim IRC Bot: mgylling, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound
from the following: mgylling (34%), trc (4%), Bert (6%), Ivan
(36%) [146]←
15:07:59 <karen_> Markus: Welcome everybody to the first get together of
this interest group
[147]Markus Gylling: Welcome everybody to the first get
together of this interest group [148]←
15:08:08 <karen_> ...Yesterday I sent out the agenda
[147] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
...Yesterday I sent out the agenda [149]←
15:08:13 <karen_> ...Today is a lot about logistics
...Today is a lot about logistics [150]←
15:08:20 <karen_> ...Great to see a good number already
...Great to see a good number already [151]←
15:08:34 <karen_> ...We will be talking later, both chairs and W3C staff
...We will be talking later, both chairs and W3C staff [152]←
15:08:43 <karen_> ...to encourage members to show up over the next month
s
...to encourage members to show up over the next months [153]←
15:08:55 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
[154]Ivan Herman: zakim, who is here? [155]←
15:08:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ivan, mgylling, azaroth, trc, Bert,
SethSL, Karen, TomDN (muted), plinss, tmichel, Madi, George_Kerscher, Sh
arad, JeanKaplansky
[154] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Ivan, mgylling, azaroth, trc,
Bert, SethSL, Karen, TomDN (muted), plinss, tmichel, Madi,
George_Kerscher, Sharad, JeanKaplansky [156]←
15:08:55 <karen_> ...Today we thought we would go around the table to in
troduce ourselves briefly
...Today we thought we would go around the table to introduce
ourselves briefly [157]←
15:08:57 <Zakim> TomDN has TomDN, Hajar, mielvds
Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN has TomDN, Hajar, mielvds [158]←
15:08:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see Sharad, SethSL, plinss, Hajar, mielvds, tm
ichel, Bert, TomDN, karen_, fjh, madi, mgylling, trc, azaroth, Zakim, RR
SAgent, liam, ivan, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Sharad, SethSL, plinss, Hajar,
mielvds, tmichel, Bert, TomDN, karen_, fjh, madi, mgylling,
trc, azaroth, Zakim, RRSAgent, liam, ivan, trackbot, sandro
[159]←
15:09:02 <karen_> ...We will also go through the charter
...We will also go through the charter [160]←
15:09:11 <karen_> ...for clarities, what charter is asking us to do by w
hen
...for clarities, what charter is asking us to do by when
[161]←
15:09:18 <karen_> ...So we don't discuss scope later on
...So we don't discuss scope later on [162]←
15:09:23 <karen_> ...it should be clear from the start
...it should be clear from the start [163]←
15:09:40 <karen_> ...We'll talk about telcos and which face-to-face meet
ings
...We'll talk about telcos and which face-to-face meetings
[164]←
15:09:44 <karen_> ...Also talk about group extensions
...Also talk about group extensions [165]←
15:09:49 <karen_> ...and talk about the work methodology
...and talk about the work methodology [166]←
15:10:05 <karen_> ...where we see ourselves starting and going about the
work in the initial part of the chart
...where we see ourselves starting and going about the work in
the initial part of the chart [167]←
15:10:15 <karen_> ...Does anyone have any additional agenda items to add
?
...Does anyone have any additional agenda items to add? [168]←
15:10:19 <karen_> ...Ok, introductions
...Ok, introductions [169]←
15:10:20 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] [170]←
15:10:31 <fjh> zakim, [IPcaller] lis me
[171]Frederick Hirsch: zakim, [IPcaller] lis me [172]←
15:10:31 <Zakim> I don't understand '[IPcaller] lis me', fjh
[171] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Frederick_Hirsch
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand '[IPcaller] lis me', fjh
[173]←
15:10:35 <karen_> ...My suggestion is that we do introductions in alphab
etical order as seen on irc
...My suggestion is that we do introductions in alphabetical
order as seen on irc [174]←
15:10:42 <ivan> zakim, IPcaller is fjh
[175]Ivan Herman: zakim, IPcaller is fjh [176]←
15:10:42 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
[175] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
Zakim IRC Bot: +fjh; got it [177]←
15:10:46 <karen_> Frederick Hirsch: sorry to be late
Frederick Hirsch: sorry to be late [178]←
15:10:50 <karen_> Markus: Ok
[179]Markus Gylling: Ok [180]←
15:10:51 <fjh> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
[179] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
[181]Frederick Hirsch: zakim, [IPcaller] is me [182]←
15:10:51 <Zakim> sorry, fjh, I do not recognize a party named '[IPcaller
]'
[181] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Frederick_Hirsch
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, fjh, I do not recognize a party named
'[IPcaller]' [183]←
15:10:55 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
[184]Frederick Hirsch: zakim, who is here? [185]←
15:10:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ivan, mgylling, azaroth, trc, Bert,
SethSL, Karen, TomDN (muted), plinss, tmichel, Madi, George_Kerscher, Sh
arad, JeanKaplansky, fjh
[184] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Frederick_Hirsch
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Ivan, mgylling, azaroth, trc,
Bert, SethSL, Karen, TomDN (muted), plinss, tmichel, Madi,
George_Kerscher, Sharad, JeanKaplansky, fjh [186]←
15:10:59 <Zakim> TomDN has TomDN, Hajar, mielvds
Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN has TomDN, Hajar, mielvds [187]←
15:10:59 <Zakim> On IRC I see Sharad, SethSL, plinss, Hajar, mielvds, tm
ichel, Bert, TomDN, karen_, fjh, madi, mgylling, trc, azaroth, Zakim, RR
SAgent, liam, ivan, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Sharad, SethSL, plinss, Hajar,
mielvds, tmichel, Bert, TomDN, karen_, fjh, madi, mgylling,
trc, azaroth, Zakim, RRSAgent, liam, ivan, trackbot, sandro
[188]←
15:11:10 <karen_> Rob @ at Los Alamos National Lab
Rob @ at Los Alamos National Lab [189]←
15:11:32 <karen_> Azaroth: interest in W3C community group; interest in
annotations in epub; also attended February workshop
[190]Robert Sanderson: interest in W3C community group;
interest in annotations in epub; also attended February
workshop [191]←
15:11:44 <karen_> ...very much look forward to working with the group an
d feel that annotation has a role to play
[190] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson
...very much look forward to working with the group and feel
that annotation has a role to play [192]←
15:11:50 <karen_> ...for web and for digital publishing arena
...for web and for digital publishing arena [193]←
15:11:54 <karen_> Markus: next is Bert
[194]Markus Gylling: next is Bert [195]←
15:12:08 <karen_> Bert Bos, W3C: sorry, muted
[194] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
Bert Bos, W3C: sorry, muted [196]←
15:12:18 <karen_> ...I have two roles and why I am here
...I have two roles and why I am here [197]←
15:12:25 <karen_> ...one is staff contact for MathML
...one is staff contact for MathML [198]←
15:12:33 <karen_> ...standards that are useful for publishing
...standards that are useful for publishing [199]←
15:12:42 <karen_> ...other role is staff contact for CSS Working Group
...other role is staff contact for CSS Working Group [200]←
15:12:53 <karen_> ...assume there will be requirements coming out of thi
s group to pass along to CSS WG
...assume there will be requirements coming out of this group
to pass along to CSS WG [201]←
15:13:02 <karen_> Markus: FJH
[202]Markus Gylling: FJH [203]←
15:13:09 <karen_> Frederick Hirsch: I work for Nokia
[202] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
Frederick Hirsch: I work for Nokia [204]←
15:13:17 <TomDN> Zakim, unmute me
[205]Tom De Nies: Zakim, unmute me [206]←
15:13:17 <Zakim> TomDN should no longer be muted
[205] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Tom_De_Nies
Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN should no longer be muted [207]←
15:13:20 <karen_> ...on Open Web Platform; interested in how publishing
will evolve
...on Open Web Platform; interested in how publishing will
evolve [208]←
15:13:27 <karen_> Hajar: I work in @
[209]Hajar Sigarchian: I work in @ [210]←
15:13:34 <karen_> ...in digital publishing project
[209] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Hajar_Sigarchian
...in digital publishing project [211]←
15:13:42 <fjh> I chair the W3C Device APIs wg, interested ePub3 as well
[212]Frederick Hirsch: I also chair the W3C Device APIs wg,
interested ePub3 as well [213]←
15:13:52 <fjh> also chair W3C XML Security WG
[212] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Frederick_Hirsch
[214]Frederick Hirsch: also chair W3C XML Security WG [215]←
15:14:01 <karen_> Ivan Herman: Also at W3C, Activity Lead for Digital Pu
blishing and one of staff contacts for this Interest Group
[214] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Frederick_Hirsch
Ivan Herman: Also at W3C, Activity Lead for Digital Publishing
and one of staff contacts for this Interest Group [216]←
15:14:45 <fjh> s/I chair/I also chair/
15:14:58 <azaroth> Do we have a backup scribe for karen_?
[217]Robert Sanderson: Do we have a backup scribe for karen_?
[218]←
15:15:06 <karen_> Karen Myers: also with W3C, doing member relations and
outreach, organizing digital publishing events for this activity
[217] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson
Karen Myers: also with W3C, doing member relations and
outreach, organizing digital publishing events for this
activity [219]←
15:15:22 <karen_> ...scribing today, but not so much going forward as I
will not do the technical work
...scribing today, but not so much going forward as I will not
do the technical work [220]←
15:15:35 <karen_> Madi Solomon: I am co-chair with Markus of this Intere
st Group
Madi Solomon: I am co-chair with Markus of this Interest Group
[221]←
15:15:40 <karen_> ...based in London with Pearson
...based in London with Pearson [222]←
15:15:48 <karen_> ...also co-chair of @ Community Group
...also co-chair of @ Community Group [223]←
15:15:53 <karen_> ...jumping in with both fee
...jumping in with both fee [224]←
15:15:56 <karen_> s/feet
s/feet [225]←
15:16:06 <karen_> Markus: Working with Daisy Consortium with George for
some time
[226]Markus Gylling: Working with Daisy Consortium with George
for some time [227]←
15:16:12 <karen_> ...main focus has been accessibility
[226] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
...main focus has been accessibility [228]←
15:16:16 <karen_> ...also working with IDPF
...also working with IDPF [229]←
15:16:24 <karen_> ...doing the ePub3 specifications
...doing the ePub3 specifications [230]←
15:16:55 <karen_> Mie: I work with semantic web technologies; interest i
n how this can help digital publishing
[231]Miel Vander Sande: I work with semantic web technologies;
interest in how this can help digital publishing [232]←
15:17:13 <ivan> s/Mie/Miel/
15:17:17 <karen_> Peter Linss: I work for HP; co-chair of CSS; also co-c
hairing upcoming dig pub workshop on workflow in Paris
[231] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Miel_Vander_Sande
Peter Linss: I work for HP; co-chair of CSS; also co-chairing
upcoming dig pub workshop on workflow in Paris [233]←
15:17:28 <karen_> Seth Seigel-Laddy: VP and digital services at Scholast
ic
Seth Seigel-Laddy: VP and digital services at Scholastic [234]←
15:17:34 <karen_> ...which is transitioning to epub3
...which is transitioning to epub3 [235]←
15:17:39 <karen_> ...interested in fixed formats
...interested in fixed formats [236]←
15:17:51 <karen_> ...seeing transitions in schools...particularly in spe
ech
...seeing transitions in schools...particularly in speech
[237]←
15:18:02 <karen_> Sharad: from Intel Corp.
[238]Sharad Garg: from Intel Corp. [239]←
15:18:05 <karen_> ...manager of @
[238] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Sharad_Garg
...manager of Intel Education [240]←
15:18:12 <karen_> ...worked at W3C web services
...worked at W3C web services [241]←
15:18:17 <karen_> ...was editor for their requirements doc
...was editor for their requirements doc [242]←
15:18:32 <karen_> ...I am interested in digital publshing formats, parti
cularly epub security
...I am interested in digital publshing formats, particularly
epub security [243]←
15:18:37 <mgylling> s/@/Intel Education/
15:18:41 <karen_> Thierry Michel: I am the other W3C staff contact
Thierry Michel: I am the other W3C staff contact [244]←
15:18:46 <karen_> ...based in France
...based in France [245]←
15:18:55 <karen_> ...joined from the beginning and organized workshop
...joined from the beginning and organized workshop [246]←
15:19:05 <karen_> ...helping you guys to run this group, so please do no
t hesitate to contact me
...helping you guys to run this group, so please do not
hesitate to contact me [247]←
15:19:15 <karen_> Tom Denise: I work at iMinds University
Tom De Nies: I work at iMinds - Ghent University [248]←
15:19:29 <karen_> ...project we're doing I'm focused on Semantic Web, me
tadata and provenance
...project we're doing I'm focused on Semantic Web, metadata
and provenance [249]←
15:19:34 <karen_> ...also member of Provenance WG
...also member of Provenance WG [250]←
15:19:40 <karen_> ...interested in what we are going to do here
...interested in what we are going to do here [251]←
15:19:44 <TomDN> Zakim, mute me
[252]Tom De Nies: Zakim, mute me [253]←
15:19:44 <Zakim> TomDN should now be muted
[252] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Tom_De_Nies
Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN should now be muted [254]←
15:19:52 <karen_> TRC: Academica Sinica
Tyng-Ruey Chuang: Academica Sinica [255]←
15:19:55 <Bert> s/Denise/De Nies/
15:20:00 <karen_> ...mostly working on @
...mostly working on @ [256]←
15:20:18 <karen_> Jeanne Kaplansky, Aptara: solutions architect
Jeanne Kaplansky, Aptara: solutions architect [257]←
15:20:18 <TomDN> s/iMinds University/iMinds - Ghent University
15:20:23 <karen_> ...we have interest in W3C standards
...we have interest in W3C standards [258]←
15:20:29 <karen_> ...been following since early '90s
...been following since early '90s [259]←
15:20:33 <ivan> s/TRC/Tyng-Ruey Chuang/
15:20:34 <karen_> ...sit on indexing group for IDPF
...sit on indexing group for IDPF [260]←
15:20:38 <karen_> ...also interested in MathML
...also interested in MathML [261]←
15:20:46 <karen_> ...talking about more support for MathML
...talking about more support for MathML [262]←
15:20:48 <ivan> s/Denise/De Nies/
15:20:55 <karen_> ...company has great interest in web standards
...company has great interest in web standards [263]←
15:20:58 <karen_> ...and web projects
...and web projects [264]←
15:21:18 <karen_> George Kirscher: with Daisy Consortium
George Kerscher: with Daisy Consortium [265]←
15:21:23 <karen_> ...we're super interested in ePub3
...we're super interested in ePub3 [266]←
15:21:41 <karen_> ...Daisy Consortium has endorsed ePub3 and we are movi
ng into that domain as systems an authoring tools come into that domain
...Daisy Consortium has endorsed ePub3 and we are moving into
that domain as systems an authoring tools come into that domain
[267]←
15:21:48 <Bert> s/Kirscher/Kerscher/
15:21:57 <karen_> ...hoping in future Daisy Consortium materials will be
coming into epub
...hoping in future Daisy Consortium materials will be coming
into epub [268]←
15:22:09 <karen_> ...moving disability needs into mainstream is goal of
ours
...moving disability needs into mainstream is goal of ours
[269]←
15:22:18 <karen_> ...we have been members of W3C for many years
...we have been members of W3C for many years [270]←
15:22:36 <karen_> ...and serve as part of stearing council for Web Acces
sibility Initiative
...and serve as part of stearing council for Web Accessibility
Initiative [271]←
15:22:43 <karen_> Markus: anyone who did not introduce themselves?
[272]Markus Gylling: anyone who did not introduce themselves?
[273]←
15:23:08 <karen_> ...next on agenda is to look at the charter
[272] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
...next on agenda is to look at the charter [274]←
15:23:19 <karen_> ...if there are questions or remarks, suggest we do th
at now
...if there are questions or remarks, suggest we do that now
[275]←
15:23:36 <karen_> ...since you joined group, hope you have read the char
ter
...since you joined group, hope you have read the charter
[276]←
15:23:43 <karen_> ...in enough detail to understand what the intent is
...in enough detail to understand what the intent is [277]←
15:23:52 <karen_> ...it's nice in its compactness
...it's nice in its compactness [278]←
15:23:57 <karen_> ...seems pretty clear to me
...seems pretty clear to me [279]←
15:24:08 <karen_> ...But will repeat what is obvious
...But will repeat what is obvious [280]←
15:24:09 <tmichel> Digital Publishing Interest Group Charter
[281]Thierry Michel: Digital Publishing Interest Group Charter
[282]←
15:24:10 <tmichel> http://www.w3.org/2013/02/digpubig.html
[281] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel
[283]Thierry Michel:
[284]http://www.w3.org/2013/02/digpubig.html [285]←
15:24:18 <karen_> ...it's not a group to create specifications
[283] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel
[284] http://www.w3.org/2013/02/digpubig.html
...it's not a group to create specifications [286]←
15:24:22 <karen_> ...but to identify problems
...but to identify problems [287]←
15:24:26 <karen_> ...this as many of you know
...this as many of you know [288]←
15:24:35 <karen_> ...is a very difficult thing to do with technical peop
le in group
...is a very difficult thing to do with technical people in
group [289]←
15:24:46 <karen_> ...who want to go into technical design space
...who want to go into technical design space [290]←
15:24:56 <karen_> ...Madi and I will push hard so we do not design solut
ions here
...Madi and I will push hard so we do not design solutions here
[291]←
15:25:05 <karen_> ...but that said, Ivan, Thierry and Karen correct me i
f wrong
...but that said, Ivan, Thierry and Karen correct me if wrong
[292]←
15:25:17 <karen_> ...Looks like one easy way to summarize is that it tak
es major steps
...Looks like one easy way to summarize is that it takes major
steps [293]←
15:25:24 <karen_> ...First is the collection of use cases and requiremen
ts
...First is the collection of use cases and requirements [294]←
15:25:39 <karen_> ...describing all the things that the publishing indus
try wants to do with the OWP but cannot do yet
...describing all the things that the publishing industry wants
to do with the OWP but cannot do yet [295]←
15:25:44 <karen_> ...describe the issues and the features
...describe the issues and the features [296]←
15:25:55 <karen_> ...The second step of course is once that opus matures
...The second step of course is once that opus matures [297]←
15:26:06 <karen_> ...is to start an outreach to the relevant W3C Working
Groups
...is to start an outreach to the relevant W3C Working Groups
[298]←
15:26:13 <ivan> q+
[299]Ivan Herman: q+ [300]←
15:26:16 <karen_> ...and discuss and have an impact about how to address
these features
[299] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
...and discuss and have an impact about how to address these
features [301]←
15:26:21 <karen_> ...Ivan, Thierry, would you agree?
...Ivan, Thierry, would you agree? [302]←
15:26:28 <karen_> ...overly simplistic or did I miss it?
...overly simplistic or did I miss it? [303]←
15:26:37 <karen_> Thierry: I think you summarized excellently the scope
and deliverables
[304]Thierry Michel: I think you summarized excellently the
scope and deliverables [305]←
15:26:39 <karen_> ack Ivan
[304] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel
ack Ivan [306]←
15:26:46 <karen_> Ivan: I actually do have something to say
[307]Ivan Herman: I actually do have something to say [308]←
15:26:53 <karen_> ...one is what you said is absolutely true
[307] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
...one is what you said is absolutely true [309]←
15:27:00 <karen_> ...the reality we have to prepare ourselves with
...the reality we have to prepare ourselves with [310]←
15:27:07 <karen_> ...is that if we go to one or more of the Working Grou
ps
...is that if we go to one or more of the Working Groups [311]←
15:27:17 <karen_> ...and we have chairs or staff contacts who may react
on this
...and we have chairs or staff contacts who may react on this
[312]←
15:27:29 <karen_> ...You may hear, that is all nice, but we don't have e
nough people to put it through properly
...You may hear, that is all nice, but we don't have enough
people to put it through properly [313]←
15:27:38 <karen_> ...We can do that only if you are prepared to do the w
ork
...We can do that only if you are prepared to do the work
[314]←
15:27:44 <karen_> ...So in practice what that means
...So in practice what that means [315]←
15:28:09 <karen_> ...is that either you or a colleague joins a specific
group, say CSS, and pushes that item through to completion in the WG
...is that either you or a colleague joins a specific group,
say CSS, and pushes that item through to completion in the WG
[316]←
15:28:11 <fjh> +1
[317]Frederick Hirsch: +1 [318]←
15:28:16 <karen_> ...I know Peter is here, Bert...
[317] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Frederick_Hirsch
...I know Peter is here, Bert... [319]←
15:28:21 <azaroth> q+
[320]Robert Sanderson: q+ [321]←
15:28:23 <karen_> ...this is a realistic expectation, yes?
[320] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson
...this is a realistic expectation, yes? [322]←
15:28:27 <karen_> Peter: yes, of course
[323]Peter Linss: yes, of course [324]←
15:28:28 <Bert> +1
[323] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Peter_Linss
[325]Bert Bos: +1 [326]←
15:28:30 <karen_> Ivan: so this is one thing
[325] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bert_Bos
[327]Ivan Herman: so this is one thing [328]←
15:28:35 <karen_> ...the other thing that is in the charter
[327] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
...the other thing that is in the charter [329]←
15:28:45 <karen_> ...it's important, in some sense direction
...it's important, in some sense direction [330]←
15:28:52 <karen_> ...feedback we got from the publishing industry
...feedback we got from the publishing industry [331]←
15:29:03 <karen_> ...is that it is very difficult to find your way throu
gh the maze of W3C recommendations
...is that it is very difficult to find your way through the
maze of W3C recommendations [332]←
15:29:15 <karen_> ...and to find out which ones are relevant to digital
publishing industry
...and to find out which ones are relevant to digital
publishing industry [333]←
15:29:31 <karen_> ...so we should produce a prioritized list of W3C spec
ifications that the digital publishing industry should know about
...so we should produce a prioritized list of W3C
specifications that the digital publishing industry should know
about [334]←
15:29:38 <karen_> ...that is a parallel work that is also important
...that is a parallel work that is also important [335]←
15:29:56 <karen_> ...Third one again, we got a lot of feedback from indu
stry that interoperability of ebook readers is a problem
...Third one again, we got a lot of feedback from industry that
interoperability of ebook readers is a problem [336]←
15:30:01 <karen_> ...even if they rely on Webkit
...even if they rely on Webkit [337]←
15:30:15 <karen_> ...to improve that, this community should also be in p
osition to add test cases to overall work on testing
...to improve that, this community should also be in position
to add test cases to overall work on testing [338]←
15:30:20 <karen_> ...being done at W3C right now
...being done at W3C right now [339]←
15:30:24 <karen_> ...So that of course
...So that of course [340]←
15:30:45 <Zakim> -Karen
Zakim IRC Bot: -Karen [341]←
15:31:19 <Bert> mgylling: See sect 2 in cgharter with deliverables.
[342]Markus Gylling: See sect 2 in cgharter with deliverables.
Scribe Assist by [343]Bert Bos ] [344]←
15:31:34 <Bert> ... Develop reqs.
[342] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
[343] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bert_Bos
[345]Bert Bos: ... Develop reqs. [346]←
15:31:53 <fjh> Ivan: hard to find way through maze of w3c specs to find
what is relevant, - need to produce list of w3c specs digitial publishin
g industry needs to know about, additional deliverable
[345] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bert_Bos
[347]Ivan Herman: hard to find way through maze of w3c specs to
find what is relevant, - need to produce list of w3c specs
digitial publishing industry needs to know about, additional
deliverable Scribe Assist by [348]Frederick Hirsch ] [349]←
15:31:53 <Bert> ... with help from W3C [noise] specifications involved.
[347] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
[348] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Frederick_Hirsch
[350]Bert Bos: ... with help from W3C [noise] specifications
involved. [351]←
15:31:53 <fjh> Ivan: interoperability of ebook readers is a problem, eve
n if rely on webkit etc ; community needs to be able to add test cases t
o test cases being developed at w3c, another deliverable
[350] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bert_Bos
[352]Ivan Herman: interoperability of ebook readers is a
problem, even if rely on webkit etc ; community needs to be
able to add test cases to test cases being developed at w3c,
another deliverable Scribe Assist by [353]Frederick Hirsch ]
[354]←
15:32:02 <ivan> ack azaroth
[352] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
[353] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Frederick_Hirsch
[355]Ivan Herman: ack azaroth [356]←
15:32:09 <ivan> scribe ivan:
[355] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
[357]Ivan Herman: scribe ivan: [358]←
15:32:15 <Zakim> +Karen_Myers
[357] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
Zakim IRC Bot: +Karen_Myers [359]←
15:32:27 <ivan> azaroth: the open annotation is on a community group
[360]Robert Sanderson: the open annotation is on a community
group Scribe Assist by [361]Ivan Herman ] [362]←
15:32:38 <ivan> … does that have an impact
[360] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson
[361] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
[363]Ivan Herman: … does that have an impact [364]←
15:33:05 <ivan> scribe: kmyers
15:33:09 <kmyers> @: question is
[363] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
@: question is [365]←
15:33:29 <kmyers> ...is there an impact on the community group to be ben
eficial to the IG
...is there an impact on the community group to be beneficial
to the IG [366]←
15:33:36 <kmyers> ...should we be forming a WG within time frame so that
documents can be referenced
...should we be forming a WG within time frame so that
documents can be referenced [367]←
15:33:46 <kmyers> Ivan: I would look at that in general framework of pri
ority
[368]Ivan Herman: I would look at that in general framework of
priority [369]←
15:33:52 <kmyers> ...of what technologies come up
[368] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
...of what technologies come up [370]←
15:34:05 <kmyers> ...Madi and Markus will have to set up and how annotat
ion fits into this
...Madi and Markus will have to set up and how annotation fits
into this [371]←
15:34:24 <kmyers> ...at the moment, I would not make a difference betwee
n certain issues being controlled by CG or IG
...at the moment, I would not make a difference between certain
issues being controlled by CG or IG [372]←
15:34:29 <kmyers> ...or to the MathML group for example
...or to the MathML group for example [373]←
15:34:34 <kmyers> ...the way you handle it is different
...the way you handle it is different [374]←
15:34:45 <kmyers> ...different structure, but I think they should look a
t the issues the same way
...different structure, but I think they should look at the
issues the same way [375]←
15:34:47 <azaroth> q-
[376]Robert Sanderson: q- [377]←
15:34:52 <kmyers> ...does that answer:
[376] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson
...does that answer: [378]←
15:34:52 <kmyers> @: yes
@: yes [379]←
15:34:54 <ivan> acl waves
[380]Ivan Herman: acl waves [381]←
15:34:56 <azaroth> q-
[380] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
[382]Robert Sanderson: q- [383]←
15:34:58 <kmyers> Markus: yes, I agree with that as well
[382] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson
[384]Markus Gylling: yes, I agree with that as well [385]←
15:35:04 <ivan> ack waves
[384] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
[386]Ivan Herman: ack waves [387]←
15:35:05 <kmyers> ...I don't see why this group should offer differences
[386] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
...I don't see why this group should offer differences [388]←
15:35:17 <kmyers> Markus: should not matter
[389]Markus Gylling: should not matter [390]←
15:35:35 <kmyers> Ivan: connection comes and goes
[389] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
[391]Ivan Herman: connection comes and goes [392]←
15:35:39 <kmyers> Markus: Let's see...
[391] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
[393]Markus Gylling: Let's see... [394]←
15:35:58 <kmyers> ...only thing I wanted to ask about in the deliverable
s section is the contributions to the tesing efforts
[393] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
...only thing I wanted to ask about in the deliverables section
is the contributions to the tesing efforts [395]←
15:36:17 <kmyers> ...sounds like it is going to be difficult in some cas
es; maybe that is not an issue
...sounds like it is going to be difficult in some cases; maybe
that is not an issue [396]←
15:36:21 <kmyers> ...let's say for example
...let's say for example [397]←
15:36:32 <kmyers> ...in describing what the digpub industry needs in pag
ination in CSS
...in describing what the digpub industry needs in pagination
in CSS [398]←
15:36:44 <kmyers> ...primarily is use cases and functional requirements
for pagination
...primarily is use cases and functional requirements for
pagination [399]←
15:36:50 <kmyers> ...maybe stratified in feature set
...maybe stratified in feature set [400]←
15:37:01 <kmyers> ...but there will be an overall declarative use case t
hat describes what is needed
...but there will be an overall declarative use case that
describes what is needed [401]←
15:37:12 <kmyers> ...but no way to test for that because there is no syn
tax to use
...but no way to test for that because there is no syntax to
use [402]←
15:37:24 <kmyers> ...I think this is going to be quite common
...I think this is going to be quite common [403]←
15:37:24 <kmyers> ...Just want to be clear
...Just want to be clear [404]←
15:37:33 <kmyers> ...that expecation is that we are not hard core test w
riters
...that expecation is that we are not hard core test writers
[405]←
15:37:42 <kmyers> Ivan: yes, that is to be done as part of the work of t
he group
[406]Ivan Herman: yes, that is to be done as part of the work
of the group [407]←
15:37:51 <kmyers> ...the issue here that I had in mind is slightly diffe
rent
[406] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
...the issue here that I had in mind is slightly different
[408]←
15:38:04 <kmyers> ...Let's forget about the case when there is a specifi
cation that has to be developed
...Let's forget about the case when there is a specification
that has to be developed [409]←
15:38:11 <kmyers> ...and take case when specification that is already th
ere
...and take case when specification that is already there
[410]←
15:38:18 <kmyers> ...take CSS example on text declaration
...take CSS example on text declaration [411]←
15:38:38 <kmyers> ...which as I scan through has detailed specifications
on underlines in other langages
...which as I scan through has detailed specifications on
underlines in other langages [412]←
15:38:48 <kmyers> ...this has to be thoroughly tested
...this has to be thoroughly tested [413]←
15:38:53 <kmyers> ...more than others
...more than others [414]←
15:38:59 <kmyers> ...therefore there are some corner or special cases
...therefore there are some corner or special cases [415]←
15:39:12 <Bert> -> http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/CR-css-text-decor-3-2013080
1/ CR of CSS Text Decoration
[416]Bert Bos: ->
[417]http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/CR-css-text-decor-3-20130801/ CR
of CSS Text Decoration [418]←
15:39:12 <kmyers> ...that this group knows more about how to test than t
he average browser manufacturers
[416] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bert_Bos
[417] http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/CR-css-text-decor-3-20130801/
...that this group knows more about how to test than the
average browser manufacturers [419]←
15:39:27 <kmyers> ...so this group can produce additional test cases tha
t the browser manufacturer may not care about
...so this group can produce additional test cases that the
browser manufacturer may not care about [420]←
15:39:39 <kmyers> ...Bert and Peter, I am getting into your area, but ho
pe what I am saying makes sense
...Bert and Peter, I am getting into your area, but hope what I
am saying makes sense [421]←
15:39:44 <kmyers> Bert: yes, it does
[422]Bert Bos: yes, it does [423]←
15:40:05 <kmyers> Ivan: So group makes sure that the test environment is
as thorough and exhaustive, taking care of specificities
[422] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bert_Bos
[424]Ivan Herman: So group makes sure that the test environment
is as thorough and exhaustive, taking care of specificities
[425]←
15:40:25 <kmyers> Markus: again, two major steps
[424] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
[426]Markus Gylling: again, two major steps [427]←
15:40:28 <kmyers> ...would happen during the later phase when we start e
ngaging with the other Working Groups
[426] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
...would happen during the later phase when we start engaging
with the other Working Groups [428]←
15:40:35 <kmyers> ...we have 20 minutes left
...we have 20 minutes left [429]←
15:40:41 <kmyers> ...in terms of the charter, speeding up here
...in terms of the charter, speeding up here [430]←
15:40:47 <kmyers> ...you have seen the timelines
...you have seen the timelines [431]←
15:40:54 <kmyers> ...are there any questions or remarks? Is it clear?
...are there any questions or remarks? Is it clear? [432]←
15:41:05 <kmyers> ...Ok
...Ok [433]←
15:41:05 <kmyers> ...Let me ask you this
...Let me ask you this [434]←
15:41:19 <kmyers> ...Are there any questions or remarks on the charter a
s a whole that you would like to ask about?
...Are there any questions or remarks on the charter as a whole
that you would like to ask about? [435]←
15:41:19 <kmyers> ...Moving on then
...Moving on then [436]←
15:41:26 <kmyers> ...Quickly about logistics
...Quickly about logistics [437]←
15:41:32 <kmyers> ...Karen is kindly taking minutes
...Karen is kindly taking minutes [438]←
15:41:49 <kmyers> ...but may be only meeting; in following meetings we w
ill ask for volunteer scribes
...but may be only meeting; in following meetings we will ask
for volunteer scribes [439]←
15:42:06 <kmyers> ...Madi and I would be grateful if you cannot scribe s
o we exclude you from the rotating scheme
...Madi and I would be grateful if you cannot scribe so we
exclude you from the rotating scheme [440]←
15:42:14 <kmyers> ...We'll have a page pointing to that list that we wil
l rotate through
...We'll have a page pointing to that list that we will rotate
through [441]←
15:42:29 <kmyers> ...Agendas and minutes will be collected from the Inte
rest Group's home page
...Agendas and minutes will be collected from the Interest
Group's home page [442]←
15:42:48 <kmyers> ...the agenda will be published via email
...the agenda will be published via email [443]←
15:42:48 <kmyers> ...Minutes as always will be published through the W3C
minuting system
...Minutes as always will be published through the W3C minuting
system [444]←
15:43:02 <kmyers> ...And we will collect the URLs of the agenda and publ
ished minutes and put them on the home page
...And we will collect the URLs of the agenda and published
minutes and put them on the home page [445]←
15:43:16 <kmyers> ...The chairs of course will publish agenda at least 2
4 hours in advance of meeting
...The chairs of course will publish agenda at least 24 hours
in advance of meeting [446]←
15:43:22 <kmyers> ...These will be draft agendas
...These will be draft agendas [447]←
15:43:40 <kmyers> ...So if you have an agenda item to be discussed, plea
se let us know a few days before meeting
...So if you have an agenda item to be discussed, please let us
know a few days before meeting [448]←
15:43:49 <kmyers> ...We'll try to get it in depending about how packed i
t is
...We'll try to get it in depending about how packed it is
[449]←
15:43:52 <kmyers> ...Anything else?
...Anything else? [450]←
15:43:58 <kmyers> Thierry: no
[451]Thierry Michel: no [452]←
15:44:09 <kmyers> Markus: For time being, we are intending to stay with
the day and time we are on now
[451] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel
[453]Markus Gylling: For time being, we are intending to stay
with the day and time we are on now [454]←
15:44:17 <kmyers> ...If going forward group finds this problematic
[453] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
...If going forward group finds this problematic [455]←
15:44:28 <kmyers> ...but for now, please reserve Tuesdays at 15:00UTC ea
ch week
...but for now, please reserve Tuesdays at 15:00UTC each week
[456]←
15:44:30 <kmyers> ...Emailing lists
...Emailing lists [457]←
15:44:33 <tmichel> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Main_Page
[458]Thierry Michel:
[459]http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Main_Page [460]←
15:44:40 <kmyers> ...There are ones that the IG should be aware of
[458] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel
[459] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Main_Page
...There are ones that the IG should be aware of [461]←
15:44:47 <tmichel> see mailing lists deatails
[462]Thierry Michel: see mailing lists deatails [463]←
15:44:48 <kmyers> ...First one is the one where you got your agenda invi
te
[462] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel
...First one is the one where you got your agenda invite [464]←
15:44:54 <kmyers> ...Also a second list
...Also a second list [465]←
15:44:58 <kmyers> ...which is not world visible
...which is not world visible [466]←
15:45:13 <kmyers> ...agenda is readable by world but writable by IG memb
ers
...agenda is readable by world but writable by IG members
[467]←
15:45:20 <kmyers> ...also one only for IG members
...also one only for IG members [468]←
15:45:39 <kmyers> ...and also a comment list that is world visible
...and also a comment list that is world visible [469]←
15:45:50 <kmyers> ...These are all available at the lists.w3.org site
...These are all available at the lists.w3.org site [470]←
15:46:18 <kmyers> Ivan: Pointers to the archives are all listed on the w
iki page
[471]Ivan Herman: Pointers to the archives are all listed on
the wiki page [472]←
15:46:18 <kmyers> ...on right hand side
[471] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
...on right hand side [473]←
15:46:24 <kmyers> Markus: so the default list in short term is same emai
l list as agenda
[474]Markus Gylling: so the default list in short term is same
email list as agenda [475]←
15:46:30 <kmyers> ...next topic
[474] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
...next topic [476]←
15:46:36 <tmichel> http://www.w3.org/2013/11/TPAC/
[477]Thierry Michel: [478]http://www.w3.org/2013/11/TPAC/
[479]←
15:46:50 <kmyers> ...We have a faceto-face meeting planned at the TPAC [
Technical Plenary and Advisory Committee Meeting] in China
[477] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel
[478] http://www.w3.org/2013/11/TPAC/
...We have a faceto-face meeting planned at the TPAC [Technical
[ Plenary and Advisory Committee Meeting] in China [480]←
15:46:51 <tmichel> registration for TPAC now open
[481]Thierry Michel: registration for TPAC now open [482]←
15:47:02 <kmyers> ...hopefully we can show early drafts of corpus of req
uirements that we are working on
[481] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel
...hopefully we can show early drafts of corpus of requirements
that we are working on [483]←
15:47:08 <kmyers> ...Thierry, Ivan should we say here
...Thierry, Ivan should we say here [484]←
15:47:16 <kmyers> ...express a recommendation about people getting here
...express a recommendation about people getting here [485]←
15:47:24 <kmyers> Ivan: It's important to register to the meeting as soo
n as possible
[486]Ivan Herman: It's important to register to the meeting as
soon as possible [487]←
15:47:35 <kmyers> ...A lot of people will be there form different groups
[486] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
...A lot of people will be there form different groups [488]←
15:47:45 <kmyers> ...Thierry put TPAC page in the minutes
...Thierry put TPAC page in the minutes [489]←
15:47:54 <kmyers> ...also there is information about getting a visa to C
hina
...also there is information about getting a visa to China
[490]←
15:48:00 <kmyers> ...so please register as soon as you can
...so please register as soon as you can [491]←
15:48:05 <kmyers> Markus: thank you
[492]Markus Gylling: thank you [493]←
15:48:14 <kmyers> ...any questions about logistics, telcons, lists, F2F
meetings?
[492] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
...any questions about logistics, telcons, lists, F2F meetings?
[494]←
15:48:20 <kmyers> @: how often are the telcons?
@: how often are the telcons? [495]←
15:48:35 <kmyers> @: if we are not traveling internationally, will there
be any options for remote attendance?
@: if we are not traveling internationally, will there be any
options for remote attendance? [496]←
15:48:46 <kmyers> Ivan: we usually have possibility to dial into f2f mee
ting in Shenzhen
[497]Ivan Herman: we usually have possibility to dial into f2f
meeting in Shenzhen [498]←
15:49:05 <kmyers> ...we will know figures closer to meeting, but cannot
change the time difference
[497] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
...we will know figures closer to meeting, but cannot change
the time difference [499]←
15:49:13 <kmyers> @: clearly, midnight is midnight
[500]Jean Kaplansky: clearly, midnight is midnight [501]←
15:49:20 <ivan> s/@/Jean/
15:49:23 <kmyers> ...to whom should we contact if we cannot travel?
[500] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Jean_Kaplansky
...to whom should we contact if we cannot travel? [502]←
15:49:32 <kmyers> Ivan: If you don't register, you don't register
[503]Ivan Herman: If you don't register, you don't register
[504]←
15:49:34 <kmyers> ...action is needed for those who do come
[503] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
...action is needed for those who do come [505]←
15:49:57 <kmyers> Ivan: that may be a good idea to set up information fo
r phone
[506]Ivan Herman: that may be a good idea to set up information
for phone [507]←
15:50:12 <kmyers> Markus: in terms of group membership
[506] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
[508]Markus Gylling: in terms of group membership [509]←
15:50:27 <kmyers> ...as I mentioned, there is work on-going with groups
and co-chairs with stakeholders
[508] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
...as I mentioned, there is work on-going with groups and
co-chairs with stakeholders [510]←
15:50:30 <kmyers> ...as that progresses
...as that progresses [511]←
15:50:39 <kmyers> ...no time to list all the names of organizations and
people
...no time to list all the names of organizations and people
[512]←
15:50:56 <kmyers> ...we would like to encourage you all to think about o
rganizations and companies that you believe should be on this interest g
roup
...we would like to encourage you all to think about
organizations and companies that you believe should be on this
interest group [513]←
15:51:14 <kmyers> ...If you come up with any, please contact us and the
W3C staff reps and we'll discuss strategies to invite and get them to pa
rticipate
...If you come up with any, please contact us and the W3C staff
reps and we'll discuss strategies to invite and get them to
participate [514]←
15:51:27 <kmyers> ...this is an historic opportunity for digital publish
ing industry to harmonize with W3C
...this is an historic opportunity for digital publishing
industry to harmonize with W3C [515]←
15:51:36 <kmyers> ...would not be good not to get the right people at th
e table
...would not be good not to get the right people at the table
[516]←
15:51:44 <kmyers> ...let us know of anyone you think should join
...let us know of anyone you think should join [517]←
15:51:52 <kmyers> ...any questions about recruitment and membership
...any questions about recruitment and membership [518]←
15:52:01 <kmyers> ...Ok...work methodology
...Ok...work methodology [519]←
15:52:06 <kmyers> zakim, take up next agendum
zakim, take up next agendum [520]←
15:52:06 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
Zakim IRC Bot: I see nothing on the agenda [521]←
15:52:16 <kmyers> ...there are many ways to gather corpus and use cases
...there are many ways to gather corpus and use cases [522]←
15:52:39 <kmyers> ...has been done many times in W3C before, so we are n
ot expected to take a revolutionary new approach
...has been done many times in W3C before, so we are not
expected to take a revolutionary new approach [523]←
15:52:52 <kmyers> ...one of key things is having right stakeholders at t
he table
...one of key things is having right stakeholders at the table
[524]←
15:53:05 <kmyers> ...risk that we may be understaffed in certain areas d
epending upon who joins group
...risk that we may be understaffed in certain areas depending
upon who joins group [525]←
15:53:16 <kmyers> ...Second observation is that this is a huge field wit
h many different aspects
...Second observation is that this is a huge field with many
different aspects [526]←
15:53:33 <kmyers> ...Likely we won't go through a single thread but mult
iple as we go through requirements gathering
...Likely we won't go through a single thread but multiple as
we go through requirements gathering [527]←
15:53:44 <kmyers> ...Some members here interested in pagination; others
interested in metadata
...Some members here interested in pagination; others
interested in metadata [528]←
15:53:52 <kmyers> ...those are two communities with different expertise
...those are two communities with different expertise [529]←
15:54:03 <kmyers> ...makes no sense to do in serial but rather in parall
el fashion
...makes no sense to do in serial but rather in parallel
fashion [530]←
15:54:14 <kmyers> ...so we will need to devise way to do things simultan
eously
...so we will need to devise way to do things simultaneously
[531]←
15:54:22 <kmyers> ...We may choose certain meetings for certain themes
...We may choose certain meetings for certain themes [532]←
15:54:32 <kmyers> ...or we may have certain chunks for each meeting
...or we may have certain chunks for each meeting [533]←
15:54:36 <kmyers> ...that remains to be seen
...that remains to be seen [534]←
15:54:47 <kmyers> ...based on where the largest number of stakeholders a
re doing work
...based on where the largest number of stakeholders are doing
work [535]←
15:54:56 <kmyers> ...What we have been thinking about the corpus of requ
irements
...What we have been thinking about the corpus of requirements
[536]←
15:55:02 <kmyers> ...is an initial taxonomy
...is an initial taxonomy [537]←
15:55:14 <kmyers> ...of problem or issue areas that we should be filling
in
...of problem or issue areas that we should be filling in
[538]←
15:55:23 <kmyers> ...Layout would be one such category with pagination a
nd int'l
...Layout would be one such category with pagination and int'l
[539]←
15:55:33 <kmyers> ...Metadata is another with publication level vs micro
data
...Metadata is another with publication level vs microdata
[540]←
15:55:34 <kmyers> ...and so on
...and so on [541]←
15:55:47 <kmyers> ...Idea is that the first thing this group does is to
set out the first version of the problem areas
...Idea is that the first thing this group does is to set out
the first version of the problem areas [542]←
15:55:50 <kmyers> ...and then from there on
...and then from there on [543]←
15:55:59 <kmyers> ...move into them and start to populate them with the
requirements
...move into them and start to populate them with the
requirements [544]←
15:56:07 <kmyers> ...This is a way for us to provide structure to the wo
rk
...This is a way for us to provide structure to the work [545]←
15:56:16 <kmyers> ...and to see where work is progressing and where it i
s not
...and to see where work is progressing and where it is not
[546]←
15:56:30 <kmyers> ...So if we see in October that work is not progressin
g in certain areas, then we can address it
...So if we see in October that work is not progressing in
certain areas, then we can address it [547]←
15:56:37 <kmyers> ...So proposal is that we work on that structure first
...So proposal is that we work on that structure first [548]←
15:56:48 <kmyers> ...and once we agree then we work on the functional re
quirements
...and once we agree then we work on the functional
requirements [549]←
15:56:52 <kmyers> ...What do people think
...What do people think [550]←
15:56:53 <azaroth> +1
[551]Robert Sanderson: +1 [552]←
15:57:00 <SethSL> +! makes sense
[551] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson
[553]Seth SL: +! makes sense [554]←
15:57:01 <TomDN> sounds good
[553] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Seth_SL
[555]Tom De Nies: sounds good [556]←
15:57:29 <kmyers> Markus: Perhaps we can produce first action for Markus
and Madi to create a first strawman for the taxonomy on the wiki page
[555] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Tom_De_Nies
[557]Markus Gylling: Perhaps we can produce first action for
Markus and Madi to create a first strawman for the taxonomy on
the wiki page [558]←
15:57:35 <kmyers> Ivan: Thierry, will you do that/
[557] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
[559]Ivan Herman: Thierry, will you do that/ [560]←
15:57:41 <kmyers> s/?
[559] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
s/? [561]←
15:57:49 <kmyers> Thierry: an action for everybody?
[562]Thierry Michel: an action for everybody? [563]←
15:57:49 <madi> Yes sounds good to me.
[562] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel
[564]Madi Solomon: Yes sounds good to me. [565]←
15:58:02 <kmyers> Markus: no, for Markus and Madi to create the strawman
for the taxonomy
[564] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Madi_Solomon
[566]Markus Gylling: no, for Markus and Madi to create the
strawman for the taxonomy [567]←
15:58:34 <kmyers> Action: Madi to create the strawman for the taxonomy
[566] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
ACTION: Madi to create the strawman for the taxonomy [568]←
15:58:34 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1 - Create the strawman for the taxon
omy [on Madi Solomon - due 2013-08-13].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created [569]ACTION-1 - Create the strawman
for the taxonomy [13]. [570]←
15:59:18 <kmyers> Markus: It's not a catastrophe if we get it wrong at f
irst, but we need a starting point and will take it from there
[569] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/track/actions/1
[13] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Peter_Linss
[571]Markus Gylling: It's not a catastrophe if we get it wrong
at first, but we need a starting point and will take it from
there [572]←
15:59:26 <kmyers> ...great...we are approaching the top of the hour
[571] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
...great...we are approaching the top of the hour [573]←
15:59:30 <kmyers> ...what is left?
...what is left? [574]←
15:59:38 <kmyers> ...Are there any questions or remarks at this point?
...Are there any questions or remarks at this point? [575]←
15:59:46 <tmichel> Action: Markus to create the strawman for the taxonom
y
ACTION: Markus to create the strawman for the taxonomy [576]←
15:59:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2 - Create the strawman for the taxon
omy [on Markus Gylling - due 2013-08-13].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created [577]ACTION-2 - Create the strawman
for the taxonomy [13]. [578]←
15:59:51 <kmyers> ....if not, we are done for the day
[577] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/track/actions/2
[13] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Peter_Linss
....if not, we are done for the day [579]←
15:59:57 <Zakim> -fjh
Zakim IRC Bot: -fjh [580]←
15:59:57 <kmyers> ...thank you everyone, and talk to you in one week
...thank you everyone, and talk to you in one week [581]←
16:00:00 <Zakim> -azaroth
Zakim IRC Bot: -azaroth [582]←
16:00:01 <Zakim> -SethSL
Zakim IRC Bot: -SethSL [583]←
16:00:01 <Zakim> -mgylling
Zakim IRC Bot: -mgylling [584]←
16:00:04 <Zakim> -Madi
Zakim IRC Bot: -Madi [585]←
16:00:06 <Zakim> -JeanKaplansky
Zakim IRC Bot: -JeanKaplansky [586]←
16:00:10 <trc> bye now
[587]Tyng-Ruey Chuang: bye now [588]←
16:00:12 <Zakim> -plinss
[587] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Tyng-Ruey_Chuang
Zakim IRC Bot: -plinss [589]←
16:00:21 <Zakim> -trc
Zakim IRC Bot: -trc [590]←
16:00:23 <TomDN> bye
[591]Tom De Nies: bye [592]←
16:00:25 <Zakim> -Bert
[591] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Tom_De_Nies
Zakim IRC Bot: -Bert [593]←
16:00:32 <Zakim> -TomDN
Zakim IRC Bot: -TomDN [594]←
16:00:33 <Zakim> -Sharad
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sharad [595]←
16:01:39 <George> hello world
[596]George Kerscher: hello world [597]←
16:01:58 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
[596] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/George_Kerscher
[598]Ivan Herman: rrsagent, draft minutes [599]←
16:01:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.or
g/2013/08/06-dpub-minutes.html ivan
[598] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate
[600]http://www.w3.org/2013/08/06-dpub-minutes.html ivan [601]←
16:03:09 <mgylling> George, hi, can you read this?
[600] http://www.w3.org/2013/08/06-dpub-minutes.html
[602]Markus Gylling: George, hi, can you read this? [603]←
16:03:43 <George> Yes, Markus I can read it
[602] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling
[604]George Kerscher: Yes, Markus I can read it [605]←
16:05:03 <George> goodbye
[604] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/George_Kerscher
[606]George Kerscher: goodbye [607]←
16:05:34 <Zakim> -George_Kerscher
[606] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/George_Kerscher
Zakim IRC Bot: -George_Kerscher [608]←
16:10:42 <Zakim> -Karen_Myers
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Karen_Myers [609]←
16:10:55 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan [610]←
16:15:56 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, tmichel, in SW_DPUB
-IG()11:00AM
(No events recorded for 5 minutes)
Zakim IRC Bot: disconnecting the lone participant, tmichel, in
SW_DPUB-IG()11:00AM [611]←
16:15:58 <Zakim> SW_DPUB-IG()11:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_DPUB-IG()11:00AM has ended [612]←
16:15:58 <Zakim> Attendees were Ivan, mgylling, +1.505.665.aaaa, azaroth
, +88626614aabb, Bert, +1.212.389.aacc, +329331aadd, Karen, plinss, TomD
N, Hajar, Madi, trc, mielvds, tmichel,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Ivan, mgylling, +1.505.665.aaaa,
azaroth, +88626614aabb, Bert, +1.212.389.aacc, +329331aadd,
Karen, plinss, TomDN, Hajar, Madi, trc, mielvds, tmichel,
[613]←
16:15:59 <Zakim> ... George_Kerscher, +1.503.456.aaee, +1.518.581.aaff,
SethSL, Sharad, JeanKaplansky, fjh, Karen_Myers
Zakim IRC Bot: ... George_Kerscher, +1.503.456.aaee,
+1.518.581.aaff, SethSL, Sharad, JeanKaplansky, fjh,
Karen_Myers [614]←
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