- From: Kostiainen, Anssi <anssi.kostiainen@intel.com>
- Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:48:28 +0000
- To: W3C Devices and Sensors WG <public-device-apis@w3.org>
Hi All,
The draft minutes from today's teleconference are at:
https://www.w3.org/2018/01/11-dap-minutes.html
And below the same in plain text format. Thanks Fuqiao for scribing and everyone for participating.
Thanks,
-Anssi (Device and Sensors WG Chair)
[1]W3C
[1] https://www.w3.org/
– DRAFT –
DAS Working Group teleconference
11 January 2018
[2]Agenda [3]IRC log
[2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2018Jan/0002.html
[3] https://www.w3.org/2018/01/11-dap-irc
Attendees
Present
Alexander_Shalamov, Anssi_Kostiainen, Fuqiao_Xue,
Mikhail_Podnyakov, Wanming_Lin
Regrets
Chair
Anssi_Kostiainen
Scribe
xfq, xfq_
Contents
* [4]Meeting Minutes
1. [5]Welcome, agenda review, announcements
2. [6]Sensor APIs wide review
3. [7]Generic Sensor API Level 2 feature cherry picking
4. [8]Battery Status API privacy enhancements
5. [9]Rechartering
Meeting Minutes
Welcome, agenda review, announcements
anssik: Last time we met was before TPAC
… the wide review period ended at the end of last year
… let's plan on the following actions
… we have informal feedback from TAG, Security IG, and PING
… we can look at usage stats of Battery Status API
… also recharting of DAS
… any other agenda items?
… Generic Sensor API Level 2 feature cherry picking
Sensor APIs wide review
<anssik> [10]https://github.com/w3c/sensors/issues/299
[10] https://github.com/w3c/sensors/issues/299
anssik: We have this meta-issue (see link on IRC)
<anssik> [11]https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/
207
[11] https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/207
anssik: all horizontal groups except i18n and a11y groups were
asked for feedback
… let's go through them one-by-one
… in the TAG review, I'm happy that Mozilla is looking into the
new sensor APIs
… I think all feedback in the issue can be addressed as
clarifications in specs
… there's no real blockers
<anssik> [12]https://cryptpad.w3ctag.org/code/#/1/view/
wWjGyJj9JsQEXugZaB9juA/
sLQghIPquNLW5dOftFYcttHFvcZFlNCYWbYa14Trgn8/
[12] https://cryptpad.w3ctag.org/code/#/1/view/wWjGyJj9JsQEXugZaB9juA/sLQghIPquNLW5dOftFYcttHFvcZFlNCYWbYa14Trgn8/
Alexander: we don't have formal response from TAG yet
<anssik> [13]https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/
207#issuecomment-351557619
[13] https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/207#issuecomment-351557619
anssik: Tom Ritter is a security researcher from Mozilla, and
I'm happy we can have his feedback.
<anssik> [14]https://github.com/w3c/accelerometer/issues/30
[14] https://github.com/w3c/accelerometer/issues/30
<anssik> [15]https://github.com/w3c/gyroscope/issues/27
[15] https://github.com/w3c/gyroscope/issues/27
anssik: see links on IRC for PING's feedback for Accelerometer
and Gyroscope
… we decided to skip i18n/a11y wide review because it's mostly
out-of-scope
… see other groups' feedback in the issue
Generic Sensor API Level 2 feature cherry picking
anssik: The Generic Sensor API is considered feature complete,
and implemented in Chrome
<anssik> [16]https://github.com/w3c/sensors/issues/257
[16] https://github.com/w3c/sensors/issues/257
anssik: the Generic Sensor API is a dependency of the WebVR API
on Chrome, in some devices
… I'll let Alexander briefly summrize the issue linked above.
Alexander: sometimes the window manager @@ X / Y
… @@ from one coordinate system to another coordinate system
… @@ developer can use this API instead of do it manually
anssik: @@4
… In order to make it happen developers have to use the Screen
Orientation API to do this manually
PROPOSED RESOLUTION: #257 will be made level 1
[17]https://github.com/w3c/sensors/issues/63
[17] https://github.com/w3c/sensors/issues/63
anssik: the way to change frequency setable
… one use case is to save resources of the UIs
… there are other use cases as well
… I propose we cherry-pick it into level 1 to get it in CR
PROPOSED RESOLUTION: #63 will be added to level 1
<anssik> [18]https://github.com/w3c/sensors/projects/5
[18] https://github.com/w3c/sensors/projects/5
anssik: we still need more use cases, and think more about
security/privicy considerations
… see all level 2 issues in the link above
Battery Status API privacy enhancements
<anssik> [19]https://github.com/w3c/battery/pull/
13#issuecomment-356590244
[19] https://github.com/w3c/battery/pull/13#issuecomment-356590244
anssik: a couple of months ago, we looked at cross-origin usage
and insecure origin usage of the Battery Status API
… they are 1.1% and 0.7% respectively
… as Mounir said in that PR, security/privacy restrictions will
block much usage of the API
… please take a look at the issue
<anssik> [20]http://w3c.github.io/dap-charter/
DeviceAPICharter.html
[20] http://w3c.github.io/dap-charter/DeviceAPICharter.html
anssik: let us know in this PR if you have a good proposal
Rechartering
<anssik> [21]https://github.com/w3c/dap-charter/
[21] https://github.com/w3c/dap-charter/
<anssik> [22]https://wicg.github.io/geolocation-sensor/
[22] https://wicg.github.io/geolocation-sensor/
anssik: If you have feedback for the draft charter, please go
to the GitHub repo and file a new issue
<anssik> [23]https://w3c.github.io/deviceorientation/
spec-source-orientation.html
[23] https://w3c.github.io/deviceorientation/spec-source-orientation.html
anssik: we added Geolocation Sensor
… we also added DeviceOrientation Event specification, because
the Geolocation WG was closed
… we'll get the Wake Lock API impl aligned
… Thanks everyone!
Received on Thursday, 11 January 2018 14:48:57 UTC