[minutes] Sep 8 teleconf

Hi,

The minutes of the Sep 8 teleconf of the Device & Sensors Working Group
are available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-minutes.html

and copied as text below.

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Dom

            Device and Sensors Working Group Teleconference

08 Sep 2016

   [2]Agenda

      [2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Sep/0002.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Andrey_Logvinov, Dominique_Hazael-Massieux,
          Anssi_Kostiainen

   Regrets
          Frederick

   Chair
          Dom

   Scribe
          dom

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Minutes approval
         2. [6]Battery
         3. [7]Vibration
         4. [8]Concrete Sensors
         5. [9]WakeLock API
     * [10]Summary of Action Items
     * [11]Summary of Resolutions
     __________________________________________________________

Minutes approval

   RESOLUTION: Minutes from 25 Aug 2016 are approved,

   [12]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/201
   6Aug/0029.html

     [12]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Aug/0029.html

Battery

   Anssi: no news from marcos or domenic
   ... I'll ping marcos

Vibration

   Dom: thanks for sending the gamepad reqs
   [13]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/201
   6Sep/0002.html
   ... what conclusions should we draw from it on the need for a
   v2?

     [13]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Sep/0002.html

   anssi: not sure yet, will need to look more into it
   ... probably useful fodder for the VR workshop
   ... we can put that topic on hold until we hear more

Concrete Sensors

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to send transition request for FPWD of
   concrete sensors [recorded in
   [14]http://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-minutes.html#action01]

     [14] http://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-772 - Send transition request for
   fpwd of concrete sensors [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due
   2016-09-15].

   Anssi: implementation status updates: we have a working
   implementation and have a compass demo webapp which we will
   show at TPAC
   ... we'll share our implementation feedback, as well as a
   developer feedback

   dom: so that confirms that the generic sensor provides a useful
   framework for new sensors, right?

   anssi: indeed; we'll share more at TPAC
   ... as long as the sensors themselves are exposed at the
   platform level

   dom: any interest in getting these implementations to ship in
   browsers?

   anssi: we had sent an intent to implement (which doesn't need
   approval), which got some positive support
   ... the next level is intent to ship which needs approval from
   the relevant owner
   ... my impression is that there is support, no known concern
   ... the only concern is about other browser vendors commitment
   ... I mentioned this work started from an issue raised by
   mozilla

   <anssik>
   [15]https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!searchin/b
   link-dev/intent$20to$20implement$20gyroscope/blink-dev/_IReUkNK
   F6o/S1GCeqxMAAAJ

     [15]
https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!searchin/blink-dev/intent$20to$20implement$20gyroscope/blink-dev/_IReUkNKF6o/S1GCeqxMAAAJ

   anssi: we also know another major browser vendor is actively
   looking at this

   dom: what's your views on the privacy/permission issues?

   anssi: we haven't looked at that aspect yet - we've focused on
   the implementation aspects
   ... that's next on our list - pretty much a requirement for
   shipping any way
   ... that's probably something worth discussing during our TPAC
   meeting
   ... I'd like to get experts from PING if they're around

   dom: would be worth finding someone explicitly from PING

   <scribe> ACTION: Dom to find a PING person for joining us at
   TPAC for discussion on privacy [recorded in
   [16]http://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-minutes.html#action02]

     [16] http://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-minutes.html#action02]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-773 - Find a ping person for joining
   us at tpac for discussion on privacy [on Dominique
   Hazaël-Massieux - due 2016-09-15].

   [17]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-review-announce
   /

     [17] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-review-announce/

   <anssik>
   [18]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2016JulSep/0081
   .html

     [18] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2016JulSep/0081.html

WakeLock API

   <Andrey_Logvinov>
   [19]https://github.com/w3c/wake-lock/issues/85

     [19] https://github.com/w3c/wake-lock/issues/85

   <Andrey_Logvinov>
   [20]https://github.com/w3c/ping/blob/master/wake-lock-privacy.m
   d

     [20] https://github.com/w3c/ping/blob/master/wake-lock-privacy.md

   <scribe> ACTION: Andrey to transfer
   [21]https://github.com/w3c/ping/blob/master/wake-lock-privacy.m
   d as github issues [recorded in
   [22]http://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-minutes.html#action03]

     [21] https://github.com/w3c/ping/blob/master/wake-lock-privacy.md
     [22] http://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-minutes.html#action03]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-774 - Transfer
   [23]https://github.com/w3c/ping/blob/master/wake-lock-privacy.m
   d as github issues [on Andrey Logvinov - due 2016-09-15].

     [23] https://github.com/w3c/ping/blob/master/wake-lock-privacy.md

   Andrew: I'll be looking at the issues that have been submitted
   and make proposals for ways forward

   Toipc: TPAC

   -> [24]https://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/LisbonF2F2016#Agenda
   Proposed Agenda for TPAC F2F

     [24] https://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/LisbonF2F2016#Agenda

   Anssi: planned for 1.5 days since Monday afternoon has
   interesting CG meetings (bluetooth & webnfc)
   ... I've structured this with first a look at wide review
   feedback, starting with TAG feedback
   ... then we could get the other groups feedback, where having
   PING people would be particular useful

   ->
   [25]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-review-announce
   /2016Sep/0007.html RfC (public) of generic sensors & ambient
   light

     [25]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-review-announce/2016Sep/0007.html

   Dom: have you looked at whether a polyfill of the current
   deviceorientation with the 3 new sensors?

   anssi: not yet, sounds interesting; likewise for a geo

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Andrey to transfer
   https://github.com/w3c/ping/blob/master/wake-lock-privacy.md as
   github issues [recorded in
   [26]http://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-minutes.html#action03]
   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to find a PING person for joining us at TPAC
   for discussion on privacy [recorded in
   [27]http://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-minutes.html#action02]
   [NEW] ACTION: Dom to send transition request for FPWD of
   concrete sensors [recorded in
   [28]http://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-minutes.html#action01]

     [26] http://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-minutes.html#action03
     [27] http://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-minutes.html#action02
     [28] http://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-minutes.html#action01

Summary of Resolutions

    1. [29]Minutes from 25 Aug 2016 are approved,

Received on Thursday, 8 September 2016 15:22:12 UTC