- From: KOMATSU Kensaku <kensaku.komatsu@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 18:07:24 +0900
- To: Giuseppe Pascale <giuseppep@opera.com>
- Cc: Klaus Kranz <klaus.kranz@access-company.com>, "frederick.hirsch@nokia.com" <Frederick.Hirsch@nokia.com>, Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>, FABLET Youenn <Youenn.Fablet@crf.canon.fr>, Bin Hu <bh526r@att.com>, Rich Tibbett <richt@opera.com>, "public-device-apis@w3.org" <public-device-apis@w3.org>, public-web-and-tv <public-web-and-tv@w3.org>
I agree w/ Giuseppe. For instance, in my experience, I don't wanna expose ContentDirectory. There are lots of issues for being exposed to the web. 2013/10/4 Giuseppe Pascale <giuseppep@opera.com>: > This still doesn't address the concern that these services have not been > designed to be exposed to the web. > > /g > > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Klaus Kranz <klaus.kranz@access-company.com> > wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> the main use-case might be media sharing and future home automation. So in >> order to have a practical tradeoff enabling non CORS legacy devices, we may >> think off allowing only specific services around those use-cases. >> >> i.e. looking at UpnP we may just allow: >> >> Media Sharing >> >> - ConnectionManager:x >> >> - ContentDirectory:x >> >> - AVTransport:x >> >> - RenderingControl:x >> >> >> >> HMA >> >> - DataStore:1 >> >> - SensorTransportGeneric:1 >> >> - ConfigurationManagement:1 >> >> >> >> Or explicitly disabling services that we for sure don’t want to control >> such as the router related ones: >> >> - Layer3Forwarding:1 >> >> - LANHostConfigManagement:1 >> >> - WANCableLinkConfig:1 >> >> - WANCommoninterfaceConfig:1 >> >> - WANDSLLinkConfig:1 >> >> - WANEhernetLinkConfig:1 >> >> - WANIPConnection:1 >> >> - WANPOTSLinnkConfig:1 >> >> - WANPPPConnection:1 >> >> >> >> Rgds >> >> Klaus >> >> From: Giuseppe Pascale [mailto:giuseppep@opera.com] >> Sent: Freitag, 4. Oktober 2013 08:42 >> To: frederick.hirsch@nokia.com >> Cc: Dominique Hazael-Massieux; FABLET Youenn; Bin Hu; Rich Tibbett; >> public-device-apis@w3.org; public-web-and-tv >> >> >> Subject: Re: NSD API security >> >> >> >> If we go for explicit opt-in from services, it will be up to device >> vendors to decide if their device is secure enough. I think one of the main >> concern was that these devices have not been designed to be exposed to any >> random web app out there. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 12:43 PM, <Frederick.Hirsch@nokia.com> wrote: >> >> agreed, my point is that if the security flaw in the benign service >> allows an attack on the sensitive one then the only real solution is not to >> enable that device in our scenario (or to fix the underlying issue of >> course) >> >> I like the phrasing, should be good for the security considerations >> section :) >> >> regards, Frederick >> >> Frederick Hirsch >> Nokia >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 3, 2013, at 2:50 AM, ext Dominique Hazael-Massieux wrote: >> >> > Le jeudi 03 octobre 2013 à 01:28 +0000, Frederick.Hirsch@nokia.com a >> > écrit : >> >> The fundamental flaw is that one device has two purposes allowing >> >> flaws from one to affect the other, yet this is also why it is sold >> >> and valued - the convenience, cost reduction, lower hardware >> >> footprint, easier management etc are also benefits. >> > >> > One simple (but of course not 100% effective) solution would be for such >> > a dual serviced device to expose CORS headers only on the benign >> > service, and not on the security-sensitive one. >> > >> > (if a bug in the benign service lets attack the sensitive one, of >> > course, this won't be of much use) >> > >> > Dom >> > >> >> >> >> >> . >> >> ________________________________________ >> The contents of this e-mail message and any attachments are confidential >> and are intended solely for the addressee. The information may also be >> legally privileged. >> This transmission is sent in trust, and the sole purpose of delivery to >> the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, any >> use, reproduction or dissemination of this transmission is strictly >> prohibited. >> If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify the >> sender by reply e-mailer and delete this message and its attachments, if >> any. >> Thank you for your cooperation. >> ________________________________________ >> >
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