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<trackbot> Date: 26 September 2012
fjh: Correction to cancellations noted on 12 Sept resolution: 7 Nov and 21 Nov canceled. Updated upcoming meeting schedule at http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/minutes.html#upcoming-teleconferences
<scribe> ScribeNick: fjh
<gmandyam> Hello from Giri Mandyam (QuIC) - joining from (858) area code
fjh: One agenda addition - shelving calendar
Approve 12 Sept 2012 minutes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Sep/att-0090/minutes-2012-09-12.html
Approve 19 Sept 2012 minutes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Sep/att-0096/minutes-2012-09-19.html
RESOLUTION: Minutes from 12 and 19 Sept 2012 are approved
LC-2635 and LC-2636 resolved. See https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/43696/WD-html-media-capture-20120712/doc/
However edit to add reference to clarify "implicit consent" would be helpful: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Sep/0122.html
<scribe> ACTION: anssi to add reference to clarify "implicit consent" in HTML Media Capture, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Sep/0122.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/26-dap-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-579 - Add reference to clarify "implicit consent" in HTML Media Capture, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Sep/0122.html [on Anssi Kostiainen - due 2012-10-03].
fjh: Continue other comment review on list
Need for search use case discussion - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Sep/0119.html
<Jungkee> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Sep/0124.html
jungkee: bryan provided a use case I did not have
... service provider could provide customized UI based on user name or user id given by client side
... this is a useful use case
... so we may wish to keep this optional dictionary until we are sure it is really necessary
gmandyam: not clear from mail chain why there is an objection to search for contacts ; seems different than pick media
... is everyone convinced that this isn't needed
jungkee: did not have a compelling use case before
fjh: wanted to make it simpler
jungkee: service provider could provide a UI for consistency
gmandyman: not sure why this didn't also apply to pick media
jungkee: pick media and pick contact should be similar
... both are based on WebIntents
... can we extend call for consensus
fjh: yes, of course, will do that
<scribe> ACTION: fjh to extend CfC [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/26-dap-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-580 - Extent CfC [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2012-10-03].
A new version of the Networking and Service Discovery & Messaging specification is now available as an ED update, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Sep/0128.html
fjh: this new version should address cathy's comments, please all review it
cathy: I plan to send out some comments this week or next week
fjh: Please remember to complete the WG questionnaire for the F2F, useful to know who is coming, not coming, planning to call in, etc
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/dapf2ftpac2012/
also please complete TPAC registration http://www.w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/Overview.html#Registration
fjh: need to pay by date registration closes, 16 October, or pay larger walk in registration fee later
Draft DAP F2F agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/F2F_Agenda_1-2_November_TPAC_Lyon_France , please review it
fjh: still in process of confirming start time and end time, break/lunch times etc
... walking through draft agenda
... there will also be a WebIntents session during WebApps on Tuesday, 15:45 - 17:45, http://www.w3.org/wiki/Webapps/TPAC2012Meeting#Agenda_Tuesday_October_30
... there will also be a Media TF session, likely on Tuesday afternoon
... expectation is that we will go through HTML Media Capture LC comments, try to resolve any remaining ones during F2F, prepare to progress to CR
... also expect to review Proximity, Ambient Light Events, Network Information APIs with view toward LC
... Review status of interop and test cases, Anssi should be back, for Battery, Vibration with view toward progressing to REC
... afternoon of day 1 on webintents
... day 2 start with pick media intent, pick contacts intent, webintents addendum, local services, perhaps progress that one to LC
... however, need discussion on how to get test cases and interop on webintents addendum, local services
... afternoon day 2 Networked Service Discovery and Messaging, ask travis about discussion needed on media capture and streams
... finally more on interop, next steps, issues and actions
... dom should be there, dave will not be
fjh: josh suggested we should shelve calendar, since it is out of date, a concern
gmandyam: should change shelved documents to Notes for clarity
... should remove IPR language as part of this process
fjh: Note has a standing as a final deliverable but we may not want to publish as a deliverable
gmandyam: even if replaced, still better to keep in note status
... having a note allows creating a history to avoid making same mistakes elsewhere
... it is confusing to members if there are drafts that look like they have IPR concerns
fjh: shelving has no official W3C status, it is a WG construction
RESOLUTION: agree to shelve Calendar
<scribe> ACTION: fjh to follow up on converting shelved documents to Notes (possibly not published), addressing question of shortname for revised Rec document... [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/26-dap-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-581 - Follow up on converting shelved documents to Notes (possibly not published), addressing question of shortname for revised Rec document... [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2012-10-03].
ACTION-568?
<trackbot> ACTION-568 -- Jungkee Song to work with Robin to move darobin to move API Cookbook to w3c space and prepare for publication as W3C FPWD NOTE -- due 2012-08-29 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/568
jungkee: Robin indicated he is doing this soon, waiting to hear from Robin
fjh: I'm wondering if we want to publish this in conjunction with the FPWD of "WebIntents Addendum - Local Services", maybe we don't need to do this; thinking of W3C news items
... probably not worth creating a dependency
jungkee: still need to move to w3c space
fjh: that is a bigger concern
jungkee: will follow up
<scribe> ACTION: fjh to follow up regarding DAP action status offline [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/26-dap-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-582 - Follow up regarding DAP action status offline [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2012-10-03].
fjh: only one
ISSUE-125?
<trackbot> ISSUE-125 -- Capabilities API compatibility with web privacy and security, assuming untrusted, fingerprinting risk -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/125
close ACTION-571
<trackbot> ACTION-571 Enter HTML Media LC comment responses into LC tracker closed
close ACTION-573
<trackbot> ACTION-573 Check with James re implementations of Pick Media and Pick Contact, plans et closed
close ACTION-576
<trackbot> ACTION-576 Send CfC for removal of search from Pick Contacts closed
close ACTION-577
<trackbot> ACTION-577 Draft text proposal to resolve LC-2644 closed
close ACTION-578
<trackbot> ACTION-578 Propose FPWD publication of "Web Intents Addendum - Local Services" on TF closed
none noted.
fjh: Please review the F2F agenda and propose any changes, additions etc. Please try to provide material on the list in advance.
... Please also review the updated "WebIntents Addendum - Local Services" draft at http://w3c-test.org/dap/wi-addendum-local-services/
... and also review the updated "Networked Service Discovery and Messaging" draft see, http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dap/raw-file/tip/discovery-api/Overview.html