- From: Robin Berjon <robin@berjon.com>
- Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:55:57 +0200
- To: public-device-apis@w3.org
Begin forwarded message: > Resent-From: public-webapps@w3.org > From: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net> > Date: September 24, 2009 14:36:56 CEDT > To: es-discuss <es-discuss@mozilla.org>, HTML WG <public- > html@w3.org>, public-webapps@w3.org > Subject: ECMA TC 39 / W3C HTML and WebApps WG coordination > Archived-At: <http://www.w3.org/mid/4ABB67E8.4080408@intertwingly.net> > > At the upcoming TPAC, there is an opportunity for F2F coordination > between these two groups, and the time slot between 10 O'Clock and > Noon on Friday has been suggested for this. > > To help prime the pump, here are four topics suggested by ECMA TC39 > for discussion. On these and other topics, there is no need to wait > for the TPAC, discussion can begin now on the es-discuss mailing list. > > - - - > > The current WebIDL binding to ECMAScript is based on ES3... this > needs to more closely track to the evolution of ES, in particular it > needs to be updated to ES5 w.r.t the Meta Object Protocol. In the > process, we should discuss whether this work continues in the W3C, > is done as a joint effort with ECMA, or moves to ECMA entirely. > > - - - > > A concern specific to HTML5 uses WebIDL in a way that precludes > implementation of these objects in ECMAScript (i.e., they can only > be implemented as host objects), and an explicit goal of ECMA TC39 > has been to reduce such. Ideally ECMA TC39 and the W3C HTML WG > would jointly develop guidance on developing web APIs, and the W3C > HTML WG would apply that guidance in HTML5. > > Meanwhile, I would encourage members of ECMA TC 39 who are aware of > specific issues to open bug reports: > > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/ > > And I would encourage members of the HTML WG who are interested in > this topic to read up on the following emails (suggested by Brendan > Eich): > > https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es5-discuss/2009-September/003312.html > and the rest of that thread > > https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es5-discuss/2009-September/003343.html > (not the transactional behavior, which is out -- just the > interaction with Array's custom [[Put]]). > > https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2009-May/009300.html > on an "ArrayLike interface" with references to DOM docs at the > bottom > > https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es5-discuss/2009-June/002865.html > about a WebIDL float terminal value issue. > > - - - > > There are larger (and less precise concerns at this time) about > execution scope (e.g., presumptions of locking behavior, > particularly by HTML5 features such as local storage). The two > groups need to work together to convert these concerns into > actionable suggestions for improvement. > > - - - > > We should take steps to address the following "willful violation": > > If the script's global object is a Window object, then in JavaScript, > the this keyword in the global scope must return the Window object's > WindowProxy object. > > This is a willful violation of the JavaScript specification current > at > the time of writing (ECMAScript edition 3). The JavaScript > specification requires that the this keyword in the global scope > return the global object, but this is not compatible with the > security > design prevalent in implementations as specified herein. [ECMA262] > > - Sam Ruby -- Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/
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