- From: Rotan Hanrahan <Rotan.Hanrahan@MobileAware.com>
- Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 21:35:47 +0100
- To: <sam@sotiropoulos.com>, <public-ddwg@w3.org>
(For your benefit, I identify myself, my role and employer below, though in this exchange I am only acting as the Chair of the DDWG.) I don't believe I have proposed any particular solution in preference to any other. The idea of an ISP acting as an adapting intermediary is a solution I have recently suggested when you have no means to act directly upon the original content. In some cases it may be possible to adapt the content within the device itself (see Opera, for example), though this requires a more capable device, and may result in more content being transferred to the device than would otherwise be necessary if some of the decisions could be made before the content was delivered. You identified a product in your email. Other vendors offer technologies that have a somewhat similar approach. The technology builds upon existing Web authoring solutions, mainly XHTML, plus some metadata and author-determined decisions that can be exercised whenever the delivery context requires. The product you identified is indeed an origin-server adaptation solution. (There are other products that can act as intermediaries.) The W3C Device Independence Working Group is following a similar strategy. The aim is to combine and build upon established W3C technologies, and provide a mechanism for context-sensitive adaptation (mainly selection based on simple expressions). This approach will also support origin-server architectures, though other approaches will also be possible. Maintaining the part of the delivery context representing the static device capabilities will be the responsibility of the people behind the DDR. This is much like the responsibility for maintaining the mapping between names and IP numbers (i.e. the DNS). A distributed responsibility. There may be some central responsibility, but until we discuss implementation in depth we will not know which is the best approach. Some collections of information already exist (though they are not offered as services). The OMA is collecting UAProf instances, and the WURFL community regularly update their XML-based collection of device details. ---Rotan. ____________________________ Dr Rotan Hanrahan Chief Innovations Architect Mobileaware Ltd 3094 Lake Drive Citywest Dublin 24, Ireland E: rotan.hanrahan@mobileaware.com W: www.MobileAware.com -----Original Message----- From: Sam Sotiropoulos [mailto:sam@sotiropoulos.com] Sent: 06 May 2006 17:32 To: public-ddwg@w3.org Cc: Rotan Hanrahan Subject: RE: Comments on Device Description Repository Requirements 1.0 Having taken a look at the mobileaware.com site which I assume is Mr. Hanrahan's employer, I found the following under their Products menu item: -------------- "Mobile Interaction Server delivers Web-based content and business applications to all mobile devices. Whether you are seeking to extend existing enterprise applications to your customers, partners and mobile workforce or looking to deliver advanced mobile data services to attract more subscribers, the Mobile Interaction Server offers a proven solution for delivering your business content to mobile devices. Mobile Interaction Server seamlessly extends enterprise applications, portals and web services allowing them to be accessed by any mobile device at any time. It overcomes the challenges of enterprise mobility by allowing businesses to: * Optimize mobile content delivery and presentation by providing easy to use plug-ins to popular authoring tools for designing highly personalized content and graphical user interfaces tailored for each specific mobile device. * Rapidly develop and deploy multi-channel web applications by integrating web and wireless services into a common framework. * Extend the capabilities of existing enterprise infrastructure by enabling mobile device access to back-office applications and databases. * Cost-effectively extend customer and employee self-service web portals to support mobile access. * Future-proof the investment in enterprise mobility by adopting mobile technologies that conform to industry open standards and offer complete network, protocol and device independence for maximum flexibility and control." ------------- Having already read the Device Description Landscape working draft (http://www.w3.org/TR/dd-landscape/#sec-theneedfordevicedescriptions), it appears to me that what Mr. Hanrahan is proposing can be likened to a kind of subclass of ISP (in a loose sense) that will provide the highly specialized service of device adaptation as an intermediary step in the content origin, transmission and reception cycle of web delivery. I have to admit, I am skeptical about the (real, perceived or projected) need for such an approach. Call me old-fashioned but I believe that origin-server adaptation based on established specifications and standards is the soundest and most widely available approach. Now, this is not to say that a stored set of declarations similar to the Document Type Definition is not a useful approach, but who (or which entity) will be responsible for the definition, maintenance and updating of such a repository if the intent is to cater to every conceivable mobile device available? Be Well All, Sotiris Sotiropoulos
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