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Re: ISSUE-140: Suggestion to close

From: Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 08:01:21 -0400
To: Holger Knublauch <holger@topquadrant.com>
Cc: "public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org" <public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20161026120120.GB32608@w3.org>
* Holger Knublauch <holger@topquadrant.com> [2016-10-07 10:59+1000]
> We are down to 14 open issues right now, and I am keen on making further
> progress. My take is the sooner we have the formal list of open issues down,
> the earlier we can focus on the informal issues raised from the outside.
> ISSUE-140 was last discussed
> https://www.w3.org/2016/09/27-shapes-minutes.html#item08
> but I have to confess I did not quite understand what problem Eric was
> referring to. It seems that Eric was merely pointing out that validation can
> be defined independently from specific node selection (i.e. target)
> mechanisms. I of course agree with that. Could you clarify?

I've forked the spec and gone through about half of the examples (up
to sh:and) and added tabular summaries:


I believe this helps readers and addresses this issue.

> Ted seemed to request some more detail in the spec about how the validation
> of individual nodes is supposed to happen. We already have one such
> interface, the sh:hasShape function, which can be invoked to trigger the
> validation of a given node against a given shape. We have no such interface
> for the case in which only a node is given. But we also don't formally
> define how the validation is triggered in the general, whole-graph case. We
> could potentially add a function sh:validateNode(?node) that validates the
> given node against all shapes with matching targets. But then people will
> likely complain that we are adding yet another SPARQL implementation
> requirement. Alternatively, Ted, could you clarify how else we can meet your
> requirement?
> Thanks,
> Holger
> On 23/09/2016 10:11, Holger Knublauch wrote:
> >I had raised https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/track/issues/140 myself,
> >primarily as a reminder that validation of individual nodes should be
> >mentioned in the spec. I have meanwhile added a sentence which IMHO
> >addresses this need.
> >
> >PROPOSAL: Close ISSUE-140 as addressed by https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/commit/2046305962be7cd47400e7a2b51cd2841dca398c
> >
> >Holger
> >


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