- From: Richard Cyganiak <richard@cyganiak.de>
- Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 12:02:30 +0000
- To: Arthur Ryman <arthur.ryman@gmail.com>
- Cc: "public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org" <public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org>
Arthur, I agree with your analysis regarding different audiences. I am sympathetic to the notion that there should be three parts. However, I disagree with your conclusion that there should be three documents. Keeping multiple documents in sync is a significant burden on a working group. It makes sense if the documents describe loosely coupled components of an overall framework, but that is not the case here; your proposed split would leave material related to a single language feature often distributed over three different documents (and perhaps maintained by three warring editors). I don’t see why a single specification cannot adequately address the needs of different target audiences. The SPARQL 1.1 spec is an example of a specification that delivers a primer, a thorough language reference, precise semantics, and guidance for implementers in a single document. Best, Richard > On 18 Mar 2015, at 22:29, Arthur Ryman <arthur.ryman@gmail.com> wrote: > > At present we are witnessing a burst of creative activity. It is great > to see such energy in a WG. However, the result is that we have too > many specs and I doubt that most members can give all these documents > adequate review. We need to focus our resources on fewer specs. > > There has also been extended discussion on the role of SPARQL, on > profiles of SHACL, and on who the target audience is. I'd like to > propose a pragmatic structure that will enable us to package the > material in a way that will address our audiences, enable us to divide > the work better, and create a sequence of deliverables. > > I propose three levels of content. I'll refer to these as Parts 1, 2, > and 3 in order to defer word-smithing of the titles. > > 1. SHACL Part 1. The audience is people who want to use a simple, > high-level language that can express common constraints. This document > should use precise, natural language to describe the semantics of > those common constraints that can be expressed using the high-level > vocabulary of SHACL. It should also include simple examples to > illustrate concepts. It should be readable by people who do not know > SPARQL. It should not refer to SPARQL. It should not define formal > semantics. It should be possible for this part of SHACL to be readily > implemented in SPARQL or Javascript. We therefore need to limit the > expressive power of this part of SHACL. > > 2. SHACL Part 2. The audience is people who want to write custom > constraints using an executable language. This part defines the > template/macro mechanism. It also provides normative SPARQL > implementations of the high-level SHACL language introduced in Part 1. > This part should not contain other formal specifications. The SPARQL > implementations can be regarded as executable formal specifications. > > 3. SHACL Part 3. The audience is people who want to implement SHACL. > This part should contain a formal specification. We can defer the > choice of formalism. If we have multiple candidates and willing > authors, let's do a bake-off. > > -- Arthur >
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