Re: ACTION-18 S40 Describing Inline Content versus References

On 4/9/15 7:23 PM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
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> I put some new comments in the wiki page section.  Here is a summary:
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> - - The story is mutating.
> - - inline has no effect, the only effect of reference is to make some stuff
> sort of optional.

I see your point that there is an aspect of optionality in this, but it 
is a particular situation within that. Beyond optional I would consider 
this to be instructions on whether to attempt de-referencing or not, or 
whether to expect to encounter the O->S link inline.

Stated like that, it's kind of a prelude to a constraint, stating 
whether the constraint that follows is to be found via inline or GET. I 
don't know if that makes it out-of-bounds for SHACL; there is a definite 
need for it, but perhaps it is application-specific?

kc


>
> If the only impact of all this is to make some stuff sort of optional, then
> call that out directly as opposed to wrapping it up in a lot of other stuff
> that is hard to wade through.  The working group can then decide whether to
> have some sort of flag to make some bits of SHACL be somehow optional.  (You
> can guess what my vote is going to be.)
>
> peter
>
>
> On 04/09/2015 06:54 PM, Arthur Ryman wrote:
>> Peter,
>>
>> Sorry to hear that. However, this user story is driven by REST API use
>> cases and has been part of OSLC since the first Shape spec. What is your
>> objection? Is the user story still not clear enough, or is it clear
>> enough and you feel it is a bad idea? If a bad idea, please elaborate.
>>
>> -- Arthur
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider
>> <pfpschneider@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 04/09/2015 02:18 PM, Arthur Ryman wrote:
>>>>> Adding the action # to the subject line for the benefit of the
>>>>> issue tracker. See [1]. I've replied to the comments. Thanks Karen,
>>>>> Peter, Richard.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-data-shapes-wg/2015Apr/0147.h
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
> - - Arthur
>>>>>
>>
>> I'm liking this less and less.
>>
>> peter
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