- From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:59:49 -0600
- To: public-rdf-dawg-comments@w3.org
- Cc: public-cwm-talk@w3.org, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
I should have copied the comments list last Friday when I started this thread... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cwm-talk/2010JanMar/0002.html On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 09:17 -0600, Dan Connolly wrote: > On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 12:39 +0100, Tim Berners-Lee wrote: > > Paths have been in N3 for a long time and much > > discussed. > > > > The characters used are "!" and "^". > > A discussion of the options is in > > http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/N3Alternatives#Syntax > > > > It would be a really bad idea not to use the same punctuation in SPARQL. > > > > Could you pass that on? > > As the message from Any shows, the WG is aware of N3 path syntax. > > I'm not sure I agree N3 paths have been "much discussed", > and using / seems quite reasonable to me. > > > > > Tim > > > > PS: Note also ^ is related to ^^ in that ^^ can be regarded > > as ^ if you want to reify datatypes -- to make an RDF > > system which uses only strings. > > > > On 2010-01 -22, at 22:10, Dan Connolly wrote: > > > > > The SPARQL WG is looking at paths... > > > http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/property-paths/Overview.xml > > > > > > ... which is quite important for querying, e.g. lists: > > > > > > select ?elt where { <alist> rdf:rest*/rdf:first ?elt } > > > > > > Meanwhile, they're using / where n3 uses ., I think. > > > > > > They use ^ both as N3 uses it and to do the is/of thing. > > > > > > They also include regex syntax such as +,*, ? and {n,m} > > > and ()s (but not for match groups). > > > > > > It's pretty hard to argue against this in SPARQL; people > > > have been asking for it from the very start of the SPARQL > > > design. > > > > > > Perhaps N3 should adapt in this direction? > > > > > > The one place I'm inclined to push on is is/of; I'd > > > hate to lose that from N3. Though... with the @keywords > > > mechanism, maybe it's not so much of a conflict. > > -- Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/ gpg D3C2 887B 0F92 6005 C541 0875 0F91 96DE 6E52 C29E
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