- From: Jeff Thompson <jeff@thefirst.org>
- Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:57:04 -0700
- To: cwm talk <public-cwm-talk@w3.org>
On second thought, I realize that I am asking cwm to violate the closed world assumption. For the rule {?x a CatLover} => {?x owns [a Cat]}. if I want cwm to first check if the consequent already exists before it asserts it again, I am really asking for an (illegal) rule like this: {?x a CatLover. NOT {?x owns [a Cat]}} => {?x owns [a Cat]}. In other words, this asks cwm to prove a negative before it asserts the consequent. Tim Berners-Lee wrote: > Jeff, > > Good question. > > Of course > > bob a :CatLover; :owns :fluffy, [a :Cat]. > > does not mean he owns *another* Cat. It means he owns fluffy, and he > owns a cat. > Those of us who know fluffy is a cat know that the second part of it, > {:bob :owns [ a :Cat ]} doesn't give us any new information. > > The resulting graph, then is not 'lean' in the sense that you can remove > some triples from it without it losing any information. > > The question for cwm is whether when it concluded {bob :owns [ a :Cat ]} > whether it should have asked itself whether or not it already knew {bob > :owns [ a :Cat ]} . Cwm has varied in that at times during its > evolution. It obviously takes more time to actually check the store. I > think the current version (speaking from vague memory, unchecked -- I'm > in a plane about to land) it does not check whether the store already > holds (or implies) the conclusion, but it does chaeck that the bindings > { ?x -> bob } have not been seen before. > > Tim > > > On 2008-04 -11, at 12:27, Jeff Thompson wrote: >> >> Consider the following: >> >> alice a CatLover. >> bob a CatLover. >> bob owns fluffy. >> fluffy a Cat. >> {?x a CatLover} => {?x owns [a Cat]}. >> >> As expected, cwm --think knows that alice is a CatLover, so asserts >> that she >> owns [a Cat]: >> >> :alice a :CatLover; :owns [a :Cat]. >> >> However, bob already owns Fluffy who is a Cat, but cwm seems to ignore >> this and asserts that >> he owns another Cat: >> >> :bob a :CatLover; :owns :fluffy, [a :Cat]. >> >> I ask because cwm will match existing existentials in the antecedent, >> so shouldn't >> it also match them in the consequent, and just leave it as bob owns >> Fluffy without >> adding another assertion? >> >> Thanks, >> - Jeff >> > > > >
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