- From: Colin Maudry <colin@maudry.com>
- Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 23:02:24 +0200
- To: Gregg Kellogg <gregg@greggkellogg.net>
- Cc: public-csv-wg@w3.org, Axel Haustant <axel.haustant@data.gouv.fr>
- Message-ID: <561C1FE0.4080703@maudry.com>
Hi Gregg, Thanks again for the quick reply. I'm not sure I understand well what you suggest. You tell me to checkout Example 27 [1], but there I don't see a list of controlled values, only the schema of the table that contains this list. To circumvent this issue, you add a property schema:valueReference (I guess it could be any property of our choice) to the Table, with a list of URIs. Finally, you create a schema for an imaginary table and its sole column "col", and a URI pattern that matches with the URIs defined above. I have the feeling that the formal relationship has holes, between the table that I want to map from (some data with foreign keys) and the actual controlled values. Or did you imply these values were in a CSV? In the end, we need somewhere a list of controlled values (in the form of strings) to look at. They could be in a CSV, with a schema telling us in which column to look for controlled values, which is a solution we will look at, but we hoped we could store them in JSON-LD. Thanks for your help, Colin Maudry [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/CR-tabular-metadata-20150716/#foreign-key-reference-between-tables On 12/10/2015 18:38, Gregg Kellogg wrote: >> On Oct 12, 2015, at 6:57 AM, Colin Maudry <colin@maudry.com> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> For a given column, we would like to be able to define a fixed list of values that this column is supposed to contain. In SQL terms that's an ENUM type. >> >> One of the solutions offered here [1] is to use the "format" property, followed by a regex: >> >> "format" : "value1|value2|value3" >> >> However, we see several problems with this solution: >> >> - it's not easy to reuse somewhere else as a reusable object >> - the value of "format" requires parsing >> - we can't document the values with comments >> >> A potential and cleaner solution would be to create schema:Enumeration objects. Problem: I don't know how to connect the csvw:Column object with the schema:Enumeration [2] object. Any idea? > You might consider the use of a foreign key constraint against another table, for which output may be suppressed. Check out example 27 in the csv-metadata for an example [1]. > > Following your suggestion, if the column value can easily be turned into a URI using valueUrl, then you could create something like `ex:Male` from the column value “Male” by setting valueUrl to something like “http://example.org/{col}” where “col” is the name of the column containing the values you want to map. You could add an annotation to define `ex:Genders` using a common property. This might look something like the following: > > { > “@type”: “Table”, > “schema:valueReference”: [{ > “@id”: “http://example.org/Genders”, > “rdfs:subClassOf”: “schema:Enumeration" > }, { > “@id”: “http://example.org/Female”, > “@type”: "http://example.org/Genders" > }, { > “@id”: “http://example.org/Male”, > “@type”: "http://example.org/Genders" > }, { > “@id”: “http://example.org/Other”, > “@type”: "http://example.org/Genders" > }], > “tableSchema”: { > “columns”: [{“name”: “col”, “valueUrl”: “http://example.org/{col}”}] > } > } > > You could even combine the two, so that a validator would ensure that only URIs in the target vocabulary were used. > >> The thread mentioned above [1] seems to end up recommending using XSD schema files to declare enumerations, but I'm not comfortable with doing so outside of the JSON-LD/RDF realm. I think it would make the validation script more complex because less web-friendly. I'd rather declare them in a separate JSON-LD file. >> >> FYI, values of an enumeration and their schema:Enumeration object are expressed this way: >> >> ex:Genders rdfs:subClassOf schema:Enumeration . >> ex:Female rdf:type ex:Genders . >> ex:Male rdf:type ex:Genders . >> ex:Other rdf:type ex:Genders . > Gregg Kellogg > > [3] http://w3c.github.io/csvw/metadata/#foreign-key-reference-between-tables > >> [1] https://github.com/w3c/csvw/issues/223 >> [2] http://schema.org/Enumeration >> >> Thanks! >> Colin
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