- From: Ceolin, D. <d.ceolin@vu.nl>
- Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 15:18:52 +0000
- To: "Tandy, Jeremy" <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>
- CC: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>, Jeni Tennison <jeni@jenitennison.com>, Eric Stephan <ericphb@gmail.com>, "W3C CSV on the Web Working Group" <public-csv-wg@w3.org>
Ok! Thanks very much. Davide Il giorno 23/giu/2014, alle ore 17.17, Tandy, Jeremy ha scritto: > Super job. > > Davide, Eric - let's assume that nil response by Wednesday is a positive statement that there are no more changes required for this WD release. > > Jeremy > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org] >> Sent: 23 June 2014 14:23 >> To: Tandy, Jeremy >> Cc: Dan Brickley; Jeni Tennison; Eric Stephan; Davide Ceolin; W3C CSV >> on the Web Working Group >> Subject: Re: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use-cases-and- >> requirements >> >> >> On 23 Jun 2014, at 14:54 , Tandy, Jeremy >> <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk> wrote: >> >>> Ivan - many thanks for your weekend working! >> >> Sure! >> >>> >>> I have republished the [publishing snapshot][1] in gh-pages branch, >> along with its [diff to previous version][2], including all your >> changes. >>> >>> At this point, I have _NOT_ yet amended the [ED draft][3] to reflect >> a change in the previous version (e.g. lines 14-16): >>> >>> --- >>> previousPublishDate: "2014-03-27", >>> previousMaturity: "FPWD", >>> previousURI: "http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-csvw-ucr-20140327/", >>> --- >>> >>> I suggest that you make these changes only once it has been passed to >> the W3C webmaster in case we need to make some more (unforeseen) >> changes between now and then. >>> >> >> Absolutely. That is exactly the point of using those funny URI-s to >> generate the Overview.html. >> >> I wait for Eric's and Davide's response whether it is a go, and I will >> then copy all this to the W3C site. >> >> Ivan >> >> >>> Many thanks, Jeremy >>> >>> [1]: >>> http://w3c.github.io/csvw/publishing-snapshots/WD-ucr-2014-07- >> 01/Overv >>> iew.html >>> [2]: >>> http://w3c.github.io/csvw/publishing-snapshots/WD-ucr-2014-07- >> 01/diff- >>> 20140327.html >>> [3]: http://w3c.github.io/csvw/use-cases-and-requirements/index.html >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org] >>>> Sent: 22 June 2014 13:26 >>>> To: Tandy, Jeremy >>>> Cc: Dan Brickley; Jeni Tennison; Eric Stephan; Davide Ceolin; W3C >> CSV >>>> on the Web Working Group >>>> Subject: Re: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use-cases- >> and- >>>> requirements >>>> >>>> Jeremy, >>>> >>>> - Have checked out the repo, made some changes on the index file to >>>> respond to your various questions on the references (I have also >>>> added the necessary references). I think that, from that point of >>>> view, it is ready to go. I pushed this into the pwd-ucr branch. >>>> - I have also looked at the checker's response, namely the 'manual' >>>> checks, and I did not find any problems >>>> >>>> I would think that you can go ahead with the latest version, merge >>>> and generate the final Overview.html file in the gq-pages branch. >>>> Once this is done, I can then copy them to the final place. I have >>>> sent a publication request to the webmaster. >>>> >>>> Anything else you need me for before I take over to put this up onto >>>> the W3C? >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Ivan >>>> >>>> >>>> On 20 Jun 2014, at 17:11 , Tandy, Jeremy >>>> <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ivan - thanks for initial comment. We'll merge pwd-ucr into gh- >> pages >>>> once we're happy. Until then, I fix `index.html` in gh-pages branch >>>> and then generate a new `Overview.html` (from respec) which I commit >>>> into pwd-ucr. >>>>> >>>>> Jeremy >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org] >>>>>> Sent: 20 June 2014 15:40 >>>>>> To: Tandy, Jeremy >>>>>> Cc: Dan Brickley; Jeni Tennison; Eric Stephan; Davide Ceolin; W3C >>>> CSV >>>>>> on the Web Working Group >>>>>> Subject: Re: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use-cases- >>>> and- >>>>>> requirements >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 20 Jun 2014, at 13:51 , Tandy, Jeremy >>>>>> <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Dan & Ivan - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for your help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pending resolution of the [request sent to Ivan this morning][1] >> I >>>>>> have managed to run through the entire publishing process to >>>> generate >>>>>> the [`Overview`][2] and [`diff`][3] html pages via RawGit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regarding the [PubRules][4] validation (see [results][5])... >>>>>>> - I fixed some nested anchor elements caused by using `<a>` >> within >>>> a >>>>>> figure caption that then got wrapped in another `<a>` by respec, >>>>>> and found a pair of unescaped `<` and `>` characters ... nothing >> much. >>>>>>> - HTML validation still complains (with a warning) that the <bdi> >>>>>>> element is not generally supported >>>>>> >>>>>> That is warning. We should get that through with the webmaster:-) >>>>>> >>>>>>> - I get an error on the boiler plate regarding the Patent Policy >>>> ... >>>>>>> even though this is generated by respect :-( >>>>>> >>>>>> Hm. I will have to look at that next week, I vaguely remember some >>>>>> issues with the checker >>>>>> >>>>>>> - I get a number of HTTP 404 errors on URLs in the document; but >>>>>> these >>>>>>> are all from with <pre> elements (e.g. literal examples) and we >>>>>> agreed >>>>>>> last time that these didn't count >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes. We will have to document that to the webmaster >>>>>> >>>>>>> - I get an HTTP 403 error on >>>>>> http://www.nhs.uk/aboutnhschoices/contactus/pages/freedom-of- >>>>>> information.aspx - but this resolves fine for me in my browser! >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, there are sites that put in obstacles for robots. As long as >>>>>> this is documented that it works... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Once we're happy that the UCR document is in its final state, >> I'll >>>>>> run though this process again ... it didn't take very long. >>>>>> >>>>>> But we should merge it to the main branch, and not keep it in the >>>>>> separate one. The whole purpose is that whatever changes you do >>>>>> should be there once and for all and you would not have to repeat >>>>>> them next >>>>>> time:-) >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, I'd appreciate an experienced assessment on the things that >>>>>> PubRules says I need to manually verify. Most of them seem OK - >> but >>>>>> what do I know!? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I will do that next week. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ivan >>>>>> >>>>>>> Best Regards, Jeremy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PS. I've added a few amendments to the [publishing process][6] to >>>>>> explain how to use the RawGit service. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! We and others will, hopefully profit from it... >>>>>> >>>>>> I can contact the webmaster with an agreement for the 1st of July, >>>>>> but I have to know whether the UCR is the only document to be >>>>>> published on that day! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ivan >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1]: >>>>>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-csv- >> wg/2014Jun/0131.htm >>>>>>> l >>>>>>> [2]: >>>>>>> https://rawgit.com/w3c/csvw/pwd-ucr/publishing-snapshots/WD-ucr- >>>> 2014 >>>>>>> - >>>>>> 0 >>>>>>> 7-01/Overview.html >>>>>>> [3]: >>>>>>> https://rawgit.com/w3c/csvw/pwd-ucr/publishing-snapshots/WD-ucr- >>>> 2014 >>>>>>> - >>>>>> 0 >>>>>>> 7-01/diff-20140327.html >>>>>>> [4]: http://www.w3.org/2005/07/pubrules >>>>>>> [5]: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> http://services.w3.org/xslt?xmlfile=http%3A%2F%2Fservices.w3.org%2Fti >>>>>> d >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> y%2Ftidy%3FdocAddr%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Frawgit.com%252Fw3c%252Fcsvw% >>>>>> 2 >>>>>>> 52Fpwd-ucr%252Fpublishing-snapshots%252FWD-ucr-2014-07- >>>>>> 01%252FOverview >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> .html&xslfile=http%3A%2F%2Fservices.w3.org%2Fxslt%3Fxmlfile%3Dhttp%3A >>>>>> % >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> 2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2005%2F07%2Fpubrules%253Fuimode%253Dchecker_full%25 >>>>>> 2 >>>>>>> 6year%253D2014%2526docstatus%253Dord-wd- >>>>>> tr%2526rectrack%253Dyes%2526pr >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> evrec%253Dnone%2526patpol%253Dw3c%2526normative%253Dyes%2526uri%253Dh >>>>>> t >>>>>>> >> tps%25253A%25252F%25252Frawgit.com%25252Fw3c%25252Fcsvw%25252Fpwd- >>>>>> ucr% >>>>>>> 25252Fpublishing-snapshots%25252FWD-ucr-2014-07- >>>>>> 01%25252FOverview.html >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> %2526filterValues%253D%2526nscheckmanual%253D%2526display%253Dall%252 >>>>>> 6 >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> recursive%253Doff%2526recurse_auth%253Don%26xslfile%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fww >>>>>> w >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> .w3.org%2F2005%2F09%2Fchecker%2Fframe.xsl%26display%3Dall%26recurse_a >>>>>> u >>>>>>> >> th%3Don&uimode=checker_full&filterValues=&year=2014&docstatus=ord- >>>> wd >>>>>>> - >>>>>> t >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> r&rectrack=yes&prevrec=none&patpol=w3c&normative=yes&doc_uri=https%3A >>>>>> % >>>>>>> 2F%2Frawgit.com%2Fw3c%2Fcsvw%2Fpwd-ucr%2Fpublishing- >> snapshots%2FWD >>>>>>> - >>>>>> ucr >>>>>>> -2014-07- >>>>>> 01%2FOverview.html&recursive=off&nscheckmanual=&display=all&r >>>>>>> ecurse_auth=on >>>>>>> [6]: https://github.com/w3c/csvw/blob/gh- >>>> pages/publishing_process.md >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Dan Brickley [mailto:danbri@google.com] >>>>>>>> Sent: 19 June 2014 19:58 >>>>>>>> To: Tandy, Jeremy >>>>>>>> Cc: Ivan Herman; Jeni Tennison; Eric Stephan; Davide Ceolin; W3C >>>>>>>> CSV on the Web Working Group >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use- >> cases- >>>>>> and- >>>>>>>> requirements >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 19 June 2014 16:02, Tandy, Jeremy >>>>>>>> <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi Ivan - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've created the new ucr WD on a new branch: pwd-ucr ... >> because >>>> I >>>>>>>> didn't want to confuse things by publishing early wrt the W3C >>>>>>>> publishing regime. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've got up to step 4.vii of the [publishing process][1] but >>>>>> because >>>>>>>> I am not on gh-pages branch I can't push my new Overview.html to >>>>>>>> a publically accessible web server in order to run the W3C pub >>>>>>>> rules checker. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There's a service at rawgit.com that seems useful, for short- >> term >>>>>> low >>>>>>>> traffic use. I pasted >>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/csvw/blob/gh-pages/use- >>>>>>>> cases-and-requirements/index.html into their "development" form >>>>>>>> and get: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://rawgit.com/w3c/csvw/gh-pages/use-cases-and- >>>>>>>> requirements/index.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I tried that in pubrules checker >>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/07/pubrules >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> got: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Using org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser >>>>>>>> Exception net.sf.saxon.trans.XPathException: >>>>>>>> org.xml.sax.SAXParseException; systemId: >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> http://services.w3.org/tidy/tidy?docAddr=https%3A%2F%2Frawgit.com%2Fw >>>>>>>> 3c %2Fcsvw%2Fgh-pages%2Fuse-cases-and-requirements%2Findex.html; >>>>>>>> lineNumber: 11; columnNumber: 149; An invalid XML character >>>>>> (Unicode: >>>>>>>> 0x1b) was found in the element content of the document. >>>>>>>> org.xml.sax.SAXParseException; systemId: >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> http://services.w3.org/tidy/tidy?docAddr=https%3A%2F%2Frawgit.com%2Fw >>>>>>>> 3c %2Fcsvw%2Fgh-pages%2Fuse-cases-and-requirements%2Findex.html; >>>>>>>> lineNumber: 11; columnNumber: 149; An invalid XML character >>>>>> (Unicode: >>>>>>>> 0x1b) was found in the element content of the document. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Would you just recommend that I merge in the changes with gh- >>>> pages >>>>>>>> branch and get on with the process? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Many thanks, Jeremy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1]: https://github.com/w3c/csvw/blob/gh- >>>>>> pages/publishing_process.md >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org] >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 19 June 2014 11:37 >>>>>>>>>> To: Tandy, Jeremy; Jeni Tennison >>>>>>>>>> Cc: Eric Stephan; Davide Ceolin; W3C CSV on the Web Working >>>>>>>>>> Group; Dan Brickley >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use- >>>> cases- >>>>>>>> and- >>>>>>>>>> requirements >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 19 Jun 2014, at 10:23 , Tandy, Jeremy >>>>>>>>>> <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ivan: """Tuesday 1st of July is our best option""" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy with this for next PWD release. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Would this be also a date for publishing the two other (model, >>>>>>>>>> metadata) documents, or do we want to do an independent >>>>>> publishing? >>>>>>>>>> (Both are fine with me, but we should decide). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jeremy, can you try to go through the publishing process, as >>>>>>>>>> described in the archive? I hope that would work... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ivan >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org] >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 18 June 2014 17:13 >>>>>>>>>>>> To: Eric Stephan; Davide Ceolin; Tandy, Jeremy >>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: W3C CSV on the Web Working Group; Dan Brickley >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use- >>>>>> cases- >>>>>>>>>> and- >>>>>>>>>>>> requirements >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Jun 2014, at 15:33 , Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <skip/> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Next steps: UCR editors, can you wrap up any outstanding >>>>>> tweaks, >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> liaise with Ivan to get a publication date scheduled? >>>>>>>>>>>>> (please copy >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> list on these details) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Publishing happens on tuesdays and thursdays. It always >>>> require >>>>>>>>>>>> some preparation and also an agreement with the webmaster >> (to >>>>>> put >>>>>>>>>>>> this into his schedule). Note also what I wrote down after >>>>>>>>>>>> the previous >>>>>>>>>> round: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/csvw/blob/gh- >>>> pages/publishing_process.md >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> which helps in speeding things up. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> As far as my schedule is concerned, I am free next week >>>> Tuesday >>>>>>>>>>>> (24th), but I am not really available for the rest of this >>>> week >>>>>>>> (I >>>>>>>>>> am >>>>>>>>>>>> currently in Oslo for a conference, traveling back on >>>>>>>>>>>> Friday), >>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>>>> this may be tight. I am not available on the 26th. I am >>>>>> available >>>>>>>>>>>> on the first two weeks of July both on Tuesdays and >> Thursdays. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> My feeling is that the Tuesday 1st of July is our best >>>>>>>>>>>> option, >>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>> least from my side (ie, if you can finalize the documents by >>>>>>>> then) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Would that work? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Would we also want to schedule the two other documents for >>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>> date (model and metadata)? Note that we need an explicit WG >>>>>>>>>>>> resolution >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> a request for an official 'short name' for the latter, >>>>>>>>>>>> because that is a first public draft. (In case you wonder: >>>>>>>>>>>> all this >>>>>> admin >>>>>>>>>>>> around the first draft is mainly necessary for the >> management >>>>>>>>>>>> of Patent >>>>>>>>>> Policies. >>>>>>>>>>>> The world would be simpler if we did not have to deal with >>>>>>>>>>>> that...) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> chairs, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C >>>>>>>>>>>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead >>>>>>>>>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >>>>>>>>>>>> mobile: +31-641044153 >>>>>>>>>>>> GPG: 0x343F1A3D >>>>>>>>>>>> WebID: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf#me >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C >>>>>>>>>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead >>>>>>>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >>>>>>>>>> mobile: +31-641044153 >>>>>>>>>> GPG: 0x343F1A3D >>>>>>>>>> WebID: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf#me >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---- >>>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C >>>>>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead >>>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >>>>>> mobile: +31-641044153 >>>>>> GPG: 0x343F1A3D >>>>>> WebID: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf#me >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> Ivan Herman, W3C >>>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead >>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >>>> mobile: +31-641044153 >>>> GPG: 0x343F1A3D >>>> WebID: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf#me >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ---- >> Ivan Herman, W3C >> Digital Publishing Activity Lead >> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >> mobile: +31-641044153 >> GPG: 0x343F1A3D >> WebID: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf#me >> >> >> >> >
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