RE: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use-cases-and-requirements

Davide & Eric. 

I think that we're all set to publish the next WD (see below).

Please can you confirm that you've nothing more to add for this release?

Many thanks, Jeremy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tandy, Jeremy [mailto:jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk]
> Sent: 23 June 2014 13:54
> To: Ivan Herman
> Cc: Dan Brickley; Jeni Tennison; Eric Stephan; Davide Ceolin; W3C CSV
> on the Web Working Group
> Subject: RE: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use-cases-and-
> requirements
> 
> Ivan - many thanks for your weekend working!
> 
> I have republished the [publishing snapshot][1] in gh-pages branch,
> along with its [diff to previous version][2], including all your
> changes.
> 
> At this point, I have _NOT_ yet amended the [ED draft][3] to reflect a
> change in the previous version (e.g. lines 14-16):
> 
> ---
>     previousPublishDate: "2014-03-27",
>     previousMaturity: "FPWD",
>     previousURI: "http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-csvw-ucr-20140327/",
> ---
> 
> I suggest that you make these changes only once it has been passed to
> the W3C webmaster in case we need to make some more (unforeseen)
> changes between now and then.
> 
> Many thanks, Jeremy
> 
> [1]: http://w3c.github.io/csvw/publishing-snapshots/WD-ucr-2014-07-
> 01/Overview.html
> [2]: http://w3c.github.io/csvw/publishing-snapshots/WD-ucr-2014-07-
> 01/diff-20140327.html
> [3]: http://w3c.github.io/csvw/use-cases-and-requirements/index.html
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org]
> > Sent: 22 June 2014 13:26
> > To: Tandy, Jeremy
> > Cc: Dan Brickley; Jeni Tennison; Eric Stephan; Davide Ceolin; W3C CSV
> > on the Web Working Group
> > Subject: Re: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use-cases-and-
> > requirements
> >
> > Jeremy,
> >
> > - Have checked out the repo, made some changes on the index file to
> > respond to your various questions on the references (I have also
> added
> > the necessary references). I think that, from that point of view, it
> > is ready to go. I pushed this into the pwd-ucr branch.
> > - I have also looked at the checker's response, namely the 'manual'
> > checks, and I did not find any problems
> >
> > I would think that you can go ahead with the latest version, merge
> and
> > generate the final Overview.html file in the gq-pages branch. Once
> > this is done, I can then copy them to the final place. I have sent a
> > publication request to the webmaster.
> >
> > Anything else you need me for before I take over to put this up onto
> > the W3C?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Ivan
> >
> >
> > On 20 Jun 2014, at 17:11 , Tandy, Jeremy
> > <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Ivan - thanks for initial comment. We'll merge pwd-ucr into gh-
> pages
> > once we're happy. Until then, I fix `index.html` in gh-pages branch
> > and then generate a new `Overview.html` (from respec) which I commit
> > into pwd-ucr.
> > >
> > > Jeremy
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org]
> > >> Sent: 20 June 2014 15:40
> > >> To: Tandy, Jeremy
> > >> Cc: Dan Brickley; Jeni Tennison; Eric Stephan; Davide Ceolin; W3C
> > CSV
> > >> on the Web Working Group
> > >> Subject: Re: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use-cases-
> > and-
> > >> requirements
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 20 Jun 2014, at 13:51 , Tandy, Jeremy
> > >> <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Dan & Ivan -
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for your help.
> > >>>
> > >>> Pending resolution of the [request sent to Ivan this morning][1]
> I
> > >> have managed to run through the entire publishing process to
> > generate
> > >> the [`Overview`][2] and [`diff`][3] html pages via RawGit.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regarding the [PubRules][4] validation (see [results][5])...
> > >>> - I fixed some nested anchor elements caused by using `<a>`
> within
> > a
> > >> figure caption that then got wrapped in another `<a>` by respec,
> > >> and found a pair of unescaped `<` and `>` characters ... nothing
> much.
> > >>> - HTML validation still complains (with a warning) that the <bdi>
> > >>> element is not generally supported
> > >>
> > >> That is warning. We should get that through with the webmaster:-)
> > >>
> > >>> - I get an error on the boiler plate regarding the Patent Policy
> > ...
> > >>> even though this is generated by respect :-(
> > >>
> > >> Hm. I will have to look at that next week, I vaguely remember some
> > >> issues with the checker
> > >>
> > >>> - I get a number of HTTP 404 errors on URLs in the document; but
> > >> these
> > >>> are all from with <pre> elements (e.g. literal examples) and we
> > >> agreed
> > >>> last time that these didn't count
> > >>
> > >> Yes. We will have to document that to the webmaster
> > >>
> > >>> - I get an HTTP 403 error on
> > >> http://www.nhs.uk/aboutnhschoices/contactus/pages/freedom-of-
> > >> information.aspx - but this resolves fine for me in my browser!
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Yes, there are sites that put in obstacles for robots. As long as
> > >> this is documented that it works...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Once we're happy that the UCR document is in its final state,
> I'll
> > >> run though this process again ... it didn't take very long.
> > >>
> > >> But we should merge it to the main branch, and not keep it in the
> > >> separate one. The whole purpose is that whatever changes you do
> > >> should be there once and for all and you would not have to repeat
> > >> them next
> > >> time:-)
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Also, I'd appreciate an experienced assessment on the things that
> > >> PubRules says I need to manually verify. Most of them seem OK -
> but
> > >> what do I know!?
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> I will do that next week.
> > >>
> > >> Ivan
> > >>
> > >>> Best Regards, Jeremy
> > >>>
> > >>> PS. I've added a few amendments to the [publishing process][6] to
> > >> explain how to use the RawGit service.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks! We and others will, hopefully profit from it...
> > >>
> > >> I can contact the webmaster with an agreement for the 1st of July,
> > >> but I have to know whether the UCR is the only document to be
> > >> published on that day!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Ivan
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> [1]:
> > >>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-csv-
> wg/2014Jun/0131.htm
> > >>> l
> > >>> [2]:
> > >>> https://rawgit.com/w3c/csvw/pwd-ucr/publishing-snapshots/WD-ucr-
> > 2014
> > >>> -
> > >> 0
> > >>> 7-01/Overview.html
> > >>> [3]:
> > >>> https://rawgit.com/w3c/csvw/pwd-ucr/publishing-snapshots/WD-ucr-
> > 2014
> > >>> -
> > >> 0
> > >>> 7-01/diff-20140327.html
> > >>> [4]: http://www.w3.org/2005/07/pubrules
> > >>> [5]:
> > >>>
> > >>
> > http://services.w3.org/xslt?xmlfile=http%3A%2F%2Fservices.w3.org%2Fti
> > >> d
> > >>>
> > >>
> > y%2Ftidy%3FdocAddr%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Frawgit.com%252Fw3c%252Fcsvw%
> > >> 2
> > >>> 52Fpwd-ucr%252Fpublishing-snapshots%252FWD-ucr-2014-07-
> > >> 01%252FOverview
> > >>>
> > >>
> > .html&xslfile=http%3A%2F%2Fservices.w3.org%2Fxslt%3Fxmlfile%3Dhttp%3A
> > >> %
> > >>>
> > >>
> > 2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2005%2F07%2Fpubrules%253Fuimode%253Dchecker_full%25
> > >> 2
> > >>> 6year%253D2014%2526docstatus%253Dord-wd-
> > >> tr%2526rectrack%253Dyes%2526pr
> > >>>
> > >>
> > evrec%253Dnone%2526patpol%253Dw3c%2526normative%253Dyes%2526uri%253Dh
> > >> t
> > >>>
> tps%25253A%25252F%25252Frawgit.com%25252Fw3c%25252Fcsvw%25252Fpwd-
> > >> ucr%
> > >>> 25252Fpublishing-snapshots%25252FWD-ucr-2014-07-
> > >> 01%25252FOverview.html
> > >>>
> > >>
> > %2526filterValues%253D%2526nscheckmanual%253D%2526display%253Dall%252
> > >> 6
> > >>>
> > >>
> > recursive%253Doff%2526recurse_auth%253Don%26xslfile%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fww
> > >> w
> > >>>
> > >>
> > .w3.org%2F2005%2F09%2Fchecker%2Fframe.xsl%26display%3Dall%26recurse_a
> > >> u
> > >>>
> th%3Don&uimode=checker_full&filterValues=&year=2014&docstatus=ord-
> > wd
> > >>> -
> > >> t
> > >>>
> > >>
> > r&rectrack=yes&prevrec=none&patpol=w3c&normative=yes&doc_uri=https%3A
> > >> %
> > >>> 2F%2Frawgit.com%2Fw3c%2Fcsvw%2Fpwd-ucr%2Fpublishing-
> snapshots%2FWD
> > >>> -
> > >> ucr
> > >>> -2014-07-
> > >> 01%2FOverview.html&recursive=off&nscheckmanual=&display=all&r
> > >>> ecurse_auth=on
> > >>> [6]: https://github.com/w3c/csvw/blob/gh-
> > pages/publishing_process.md
> > >>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: Dan Brickley [mailto:danbri@google.com]
> > >>>> Sent: 19 June 2014 19:58
> > >>>> To: Tandy, Jeremy
> > >>>> Cc: Ivan Herman; Jeni Tennison; Eric Stephan; Davide Ceolin; W3C
> > >>>> CSV on the Web Working Group
> > >>>> Subject: Re: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use-
> cases-
> > >> and-
> > >>>> requirements
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 19 June 2014 16:02, Tandy, Jeremy
> > >>>> <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>> Hi Ivan -
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I've created the new ucr WD on a new branch: pwd-ucr ...
> because
> > I
> > >>>> didn't want to confuse things by publishing early wrt the W3C
> > >>>> publishing regime.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I've got up to step 4.vii of the [publishing process][1] but
> > >> because
> > >>>> I am not on gh-pages branch I can't push my new Overview.html to
> > >>>> a publically accessible web server in order to run the W3C pub
> > >>>> rules checker.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> There's a service at rawgit.com that seems useful, for short-
> term
> > >> low
> > >>>> traffic use. I pasted
> > >>>> https://github.com/w3c/csvw/blob/gh-pages/use-
> > >>>> cases-and-requirements/index.html into their "development" form
> > >>>> and get:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> https://rawgit.com/w3c/csvw/gh-pages/use-cases-and-
> > >>>> requirements/index.html
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I tried that in pubrules checker
> > http://www.w3.org/2005/07/pubrules
> > >>>> and
> > >>>> got:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Using org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser
> > >>>> Exception net.sf.saxon.trans.XPathException:
> > >>>> org.xml.sax.SAXParseException; systemId:
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > http://services.w3.org/tidy/tidy?docAddr=https%3A%2F%2Frawgit.com%2Fw
> > >>>> 3c %2Fcsvw%2Fgh-pages%2Fuse-cases-and-requirements%2Findex.html;
> > >>>> lineNumber: 11; columnNumber: 149; An invalid XML character
> > >> (Unicode:
> > >>>> 0x1b) was found in the element content of the document.
> > >>>> org.xml.sax.SAXParseException; systemId:
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > http://services.w3.org/tidy/tidy?docAddr=https%3A%2F%2Frawgit.com%2Fw
> > >>>> 3c %2Fcsvw%2Fgh-pages%2Fuse-cases-and-requirements%2Findex.html;
> > >>>> lineNumber: 11; columnNumber: 149; An invalid XML character
> > >> (Unicode:
> > >>>> 0x1b) was found in the element content of the document.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Would you just recommend that I merge in the changes with gh-
> > pages
> > >>>> branch and get on with the process?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Many thanks, Jeremy
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [1]: https://github.com/w3c/csvw/blob/gh-
> > >> pages/publishing_process.md
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>> From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org]
> > >>>>>> Sent: 19 June 2014 11:37
> > >>>>>> To: Tandy, Jeremy; Jeni Tennison
> > >>>>>> Cc: Eric Stephan; Davide Ceolin; W3C CSV on the Web Working
> > >>>>>> Group; Dan Brickley
> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use-
> > cases-
> > >>>> and-
> > >>>>>> requirements
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 19 Jun 2014, at 10:23 , Tandy, Jeremy
> > >>>>>> <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Ivan: """Tuesday 1st of July is our best option"""
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I'm happy with this for next PWD release.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Would this be also a date for publishing the two other (model,
> > >>>>>> metadata) documents, or do we want to do an independent
> > >> publishing?
> > >>>>>> (Both are fine with me, but we should decide).
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Jeremy, can you try to go through the publishing process, as
> > >>>>>> described in the archive? I hope that would work...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Ivan
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Jeremy
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>> From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org]
> > >>>>>>>> Sent: 18 June 2014 17:13
> > >>>>>>>> To: Eric Stephan; Davide Ceolin; Tandy, Jeremy
> > >>>>>>>> Cc: W3C CSV on the Web Working Group; Dan Brickley
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use-
> > >> cases-
> > >>>>>> and-
> > >>>>>>>> requirements
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On 18 Jun 2014, at 15:33 , Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> <skip/>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Next steps: UCR editors, can you wrap up any outstanding
> > >> tweaks,
> > >>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>> liaise with Ivan to get a publication date scheduled?
> > >>>>>>>>> (please copy
> > >>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>> list on these details)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Publishing happens on tuesdays and thursdays. It always
> > require
> > >>>>>>>> some preparation and also an agreement with the webmaster
> (to
> > >> put
> > >>>>>>>> this into his schedule). Note also what I wrote down after
> > >>>>>>>> the previous
> > >>>>>> round:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/csvw/blob/gh-
> > pages/publishing_process.md
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> which helps in speeding things up.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> As far as my schedule is concerned, I am free next week
> > Tuesday
> > >>>>>>>> (24th), but I am not really available for the rest of this
> > week
> > >>>> (I
> > >>>>>> am
> > >>>>>>>> currently in Oslo for a conference, traveling back on
> > >>>>>>>> Friday),
> > >> so
> > >>>>>>>> this may be tight. I am not available on the 26th. I am
> > >> available
> > >>>>>>>> on the first two weeks of July both on Tuesdays and
> Thursdays.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> My feeling is that the Tuesday 1st of July is our best
> > >>>>>>>> option,
> > >> at
> > >>>>>>>> least from my side (ie, if you can finalize the documents by
> > >>>> then)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Would that work?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Would we also want to schedule the two other documents for
> > that
> > >>>>>>>> date (model and metadata)? Note that we need an explicit WG
> > >>>>>>>> resolution
> > >>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>> a request for an official 'short name' for the latter,
> > >>>>>>>> because that is a first public draft. (In case you wonder:
> > >>>>>>>> all this
> > >> admin
> > >>>>>>>> around the first draft is mainly necessary for the
> management
> > >>>>>>>> of Patent
> > >>>>>> Policies.
> > >>>>>>>> The world would be simpler if we did not have to deal with
> > >>>>>>>> that...)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Cheers
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Ivan
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> chairs,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Dan
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> ----
> > >>>>>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C
> > >>>>>>>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead
> > >>>>>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
> > >>>>>>>> mobile: +31-641044153
> > >>>>>>>> GPG: 0x343F1A3D
> > >>>>>>>> WebID: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf#me
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ----
> > >>>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C
> > >>>>>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead
> > >>>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
> > >>>>>> mobile: +31-641044153
> > >>>>>> GPG: 0x343F1A3D
> > >>>>>> WebID: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf#me
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----
> > >> Ivan Herman, W3C
> > >> Digital Publishing Activity Lead
> > >> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
> > >> mobile: +31-641044153
> > >> GPG: 0x343F1A3D
> > >> WebID: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf#me
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> > ----
> > Ivan Herman, W3C
> > Digital Publishing Activity Lead
> > Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
> > mobile: +31-641044153
> > GPG: 0x343F1A3D
> > WebID: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf#me
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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