Re: [csswg-drafts] Browser zoom unit for accessibility [css-values-and-units] (#6869)

Hi Scott! @scottkellum 

> _Unless I am missing something, the technology isn’t there even with a polyfill._

Well, how about a poly**land**fill.... 

I think I was talking more about x-height, there's things you can do to kinda get x-height sort of working with a polyfill.

The thing that I find most troubling is the WCAG guidelines are (technically) only about what the author must do irrespective of technology—but some of the SCs are really not an author issue, often more a technology issue. Things like text reflow and zoom is a prime example. There is much missing from the technology still today. The subgroups here that were at one time developing accessible standards for technology end of things are essentially abandoned.

The deeper I get into this stuff the more it's clear that some of the most pressing accessibility problems are with the current state of the technology.



> _I opened this issue because in most browsers, changing zoom is indistinguishable from resizing the viewport._ 

Chrome has a bunch of different zoom options, both text-only and whole-content.
Safari and Firefox both have a font only version as well as the whole screen

Nevertheless, as far as I'm concerned none of them work very well. Browsers aren't QuarkExpress or InDesign, and the problems today with typography and type rendering on the web in 2023 is kind of shocking

And I'm not even bringing up the subject of 15 years ago pretty much all websites were using black text until some standards organization said that 4.5:1 is somehow OK for body text, and over a period of a few years all those sites with black text slowly migrated to unreadable light gray, I suppose because it's trendy and goes well with banal Bootstrap frameworks.

Then google came out with Google fonts and _"hey everybody let's try 200 or 300 weight because hooray for gray"_ or something. An apple decided that they just had to have blended font smoothing and of course people use that with a tiny 300 weight font so the whole font is subsumed into the background, even on the retina screen that I'm looking at right now.

I mean can the people running sites even read them? I would think that if people are putting Time money and effort into a site that they'd actually want people to, I don't know, read the stuff,,,

End of rant
### x-height and legibility

I like your idea over at CSS drafts, I'll comment more over there
https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/6709#issuecomment-1397682218


....Other than to say I should probably take lessons from you on how to be brief, clear, and succinct, because apparently I missed that day...




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