Re: [csswg-drafts] [css-text-3] Make U+0000 invisible? (#7249)

The CSS Working Group just discussed `U+0000 invisible?`, and agreed to the following:

* `RESOLVED: No change`

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&lt;TabAtkins> Topic: U+0000 invisible?<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> github: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/7249<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> fantasai: Do we have Myles and jfkthame on the call?<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> astearns: Have jfkthame, not Mayles<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> smfr: Can probably speak for Myles<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> astearns: So we had previous resolution to amke all the CC characters visible<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> smfr: We had an issue on one Apple website, the text had U+0000 bytes in it<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> smfr: I'm guessing it's not *that* uncommon to have 0 bytes by mistake, due to server bugs? But we'd probably be okay with no change.<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> astearns: So you're suggesting close no change, and continue to specify they're displayed?<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> smfr: Think that's okay unless we have evidence the problem is more widespread.<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> emilio: I don't recall seeing issues with this in Nightly/Beta and we've had it for a long time<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> jfkthame: Also think we should ship it. Do occasionally see characters show up in Nightly that are invisible elsewhere, but it's rare.<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> jfkthame: And in all cases the users are better served by sites fixing their broken data<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> fantasai: We'd previously discussed doing a coordinated ship of this behavior - that was years ago, guess this didn't happen?<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> florian: Think we prepped coord but didn't pull the trigger.<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> florian: Firefox impl'd, Chrome impl'd partially (but leaves it to the font to render), Safari didn't impl.<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> astearns: But I think we can agree to resolve on this issue.<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> astearns: Any objections to no change on rendering of U+0000?<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> RESOLVED: No change<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> astearns: What can we do to coordinate making this part of the spec interoperable?<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> jfkthame: Think we need Blink to fix impl to not depend on the font's rendering.<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> astearns: Do we know if there's a blink issue?<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> jfkthame: There is, don't have it offhand<br>
&lt;fantasai> Maybe send that issue link to chrishtr and he can coordinate?<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> astearns: Suggest we find the issue number and post it here, see if we can get a response from Blink engineers<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> Yes, chrishtr is the right contact for coordinating this<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> smfr: We might be in a similar situation to Blink where it depends on the font, not sure<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> smfr: But this seems rare eough that I don't think coordinating shipping is necessary, seems hard to do for us in WebKit anyway<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> fantasai: I think we should open a separat eissue for the coordination<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> astearns: So we can close this issue witht he resolution we got, and continue coordination discussion later on.<br>
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