Re: [csswg-drafts] [css-color] Discussion of Conflicts & Resolutions: D50/D65, LAB/LUV, ICC/OCIO (#6061)

Hey Chris @svgeesus 

> This is just the breakdown of Weber's law, no?

EGADS.... gotta few hours? LOL.... Weber breaks I think well before that.... Stevens is more what `L*` follows... but also breaks... in fact, here's the ginormous stumbling block for readability contrast (that APCA does address) is that Weber, Michelson, et al are threshold based measures. 

Readability is _far_ supra-threshold, and due to contrast constancy and other effects, there is a pretty massive shift that causes a breakdown of all of those, Weber, Stevens, Michelson, etc etc. 

**As a side note, did you know that "ginormous" is now a dictionary word?**


> Its (one of the reasons) why many EOTFs have a linear portion near zero, and also why HLG uses a gamma law to media white and a log law above.

Yes, C. Poynton has talked a lot about how the curve is not just powerlaw or not just log, but a hybrid. 


> > I am presently, increasingly of the opinion that "L* is not super useful for self illuminated displays."
> 
> You don't say why.

No I don't.... at least not publicly yet... I really need to get some of these papers in better shape for review... Why do humans need sleep anyway?

We have a saying in the film industry **"A film is never finished — it is simply abandoned"** ....   I suspect this same sentiment applies to research as well, LOL....


> > For sRGB, I have been working on some alternatives: Ls and one possible definition is:
> > Ls = Y^0.62 * 121 - 21
> 
> Where do these numbers come from? Has this had any peer review?

They come from me, and _Nooooooo._....  This is sneak peak of something I am working on and it's from a small sample size of data and if I wasn't clear it is less-baked than a box of dry Betty Crocker mix, and probably more than I should be chatting about publicly anyway... Though CIECAM02 does presuppose some of this.


Andy

 


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