Re: [csswg-drafts] CSS snapshot 2021 (#6243)

The CSS Working Group just discussed `Snapshot 2021`, and agreed to the following:

* `RESOLVED: Transforms 2 to "rough interop"`
* `RESOLVED: other specs as proposed, except for Color 4 and overscroll-behavior`
* `RESOLVED: Publish Snapshot 2021 as a NOTE after edits`

<details><summary>The full IRC log of that discussion</summary>
&lt;fantasai> Topic: Snapshot 2021<br>
&lt;fantasai> github: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/6243<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: fantasai and I prepared a draft for this year<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: more or less identical to last year other than dates<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: Went through list of specs to propose<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: reminder there's 3 buckets<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: Stable = things that are REC or almost REC<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: Rough Interop = roughly interoperable, but spec is in rough shape and lots of issues, but things are shipping<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: Awaiting Implementations = spec is "done" as far as can be without implementation work, but don't have enough implementation to know if stable yet<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: We've made a list of some things that might go into the 2021 snapshot<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: First is, Lists 3 specification<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: Other than the marker-side property, seems that everything is implemented even though spec is not completely finished, not that far away<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: so is that one ready for Rough Interop?<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: Next is Counter Styles 3, seems ready for Stable (Official Definition)<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: Logical Properties should be in "rough interop"<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: One we have a question, what is the status of "overscroll-behavior", should it be in "rough interop" or not yet?<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: Next is css-position-3, seems to be "rough interop"<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: Scrollbars 1 now CR should be in "Awaiting Implementations" bucket<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: css-sizing-3 in Rough Interop<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: Another question: what's status of resize-observer? Should it go into "rough interop"?<br>
&lt;jensimmons> q+<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: Same question for Web Animations 1<br>
&lt;chris> https://test.csswg.org/harness/results/css-fonts-4_dev/grouped/<br>
&lt;astearns> ack jensimmons<br>
&lt;fantasai> astearns: Also suggestion for css-fonts-4 to "rough interop"<br>
&lt;fantasai> astearns: and css-color-4 to ???<br>
&lt;astearns> s/???/official/<br>
&lt;fantasai> jensimmons: Spec considering in Interop 2022, which is cross-browser effort to focus on testing and interop fixes<br>
&lt;fantasai> jensimmons: overscroll-behavior<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: Does it mean that after next year it will be in "rough interop"?<br>
&lt;fantasai> jensimmons: No I think now<br>
&lt;fantasai> emilio: ...<br>
&lt;fantasai> emilio: propagation from the body<br>
&lt;fantasai> emilio: basically Blink implements the spec wrong<br>
&lt;fantasai> emilio: in order to make it work on Blink, you have to set it on BODY and for everyone need to set it on root<br>
&lt;chris> https://test.csswg.org/harness/results/css-color-4_dev/grouped/<br>
&lt;fantasai> emilio: *other* than that it's roughly interoperable<br>
&lt;chris> q+<br>
&lt;chris> sigh no audio<br>
&lt;chris> on irc<br>
&lt;chris> are suggestions for color 4 and fonts 4 accepted?<br>
&lt;fantasai> &lt;fantasai> I think color 4 should go to CR first before going official; Fonts 4 to rough interop seems fine<br>
&lt;fantasai> smfr: I would hold off on overscroll-behavior<br>
&lt;fantasai> astearns: OK, overscroll-behavior off the list<br>
&lt;fantasai> astearns: css-sizing-3?<br>
&lt;chris> q+<br>
&lt;fantasai> astearns: should we push it down to rough interop? It's currently in stable but not CR<br>
&lt;astearns> ack chris<br>
&lt;fantasai> chris: Color 4 should be in CR<br>
&lt;fantasai> chris: have shipping implementations, lots of interp<br>
&lt;fantasai> chris: anachronistic to link to Color 3<br>
&lt;chris> \o/<br>
&lt;chris> 7 open issues<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: Still have open issues, not a lot, but right now at 7<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: so certainly qualifies under the 2nd bucket, but official definition, maybe not so much<br>
&lt;fantasai> fantasai: I would prefer to wait until next year. Top bucket specs should be in CR or later.<br>
&lt;fantasai> astearns: ???<br>
&lt;fantasai> astearns: Anyone with opinions about resize-observer or web animations?<br>
&lt;chris> ok, agreed re color-4<br>
&lt;fantasai> smfr: Both of those into rough interop<br>
&lt;fantasai> astearns: anyone disagree?<br>
&lt;fantasai> astearns: OK, I think we're at consensus for the list of things in the issue.<br>
&lt;fantasai> astearns: What about Transforms 2?<br>
&lt;florian> s/???/take sizing to rough interop for the same reasons/<br>
&lt;fantasai> astearns: It was suggested to add it to stable last year?<br>
&lt;fantasai> fantasai: It's pretty rough, should go into rough interop.<br>
&lt;fantasai> smfr: sgtm<br>
&lt;fantasai> dbaron: There are many pieces not interoperable and many pieces that are, so sounds good to me<br>
&lt;dbaron> s/many pieces not/some pieces not/<br>
&lt;fantasai> astearns: My suggested resolution is to take all of the suggested edits, including moving transforms 2 to rough interop, except for color 4 and overscroll-behavior<br>
&lt;fantasai> RESOLVED: Transforms 2 to "rough interop"<br>
&lt;chris> +1<br>
&lt;fantasai> RESOLVED: other specs as proposed, except for Color 4 and overscroll-behavior<br>
&lt;fantasai> astearns: Proposed to publish Snapshot 2021 as a Note<br>
&lt;fantasai> RESOLVED: Publish Snapshot 2021 as a NOTE after edits<br>
&lt;fantasai> astearns: How much time until end of year publishing moratorium?<br>
&lt;fantasai> florian: Should be fine, will be done quickly<br>
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