Re: [csswg-drafts] [css-inline] naming of text-top and text-bottom baselines (#860)

The CSS Working Group just discussed `[css-inline] naming of text-top and text-bottom baselines`, and agreed to the following:

* `RESOLVED: No change`

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&lt;dael> Topic: [css-inline] naming of text-top and text-bottom baselines<br>
&lt;fantasai> github: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/860<br>
&lt;dael> github: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/860<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: We have text-top and -bottom of veritical align<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: Not really top and bottom in vertical text. Should we rename?<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: My position is where in spec using over and under terms keywords in vertical-align no point in renaming. Any new properties with the new keywords should be consistent. Don't rename the syntax, use over and under in spec<br>
&lt;Rossen_> q?<br>
&lt;dael> AmeliaBR: We have keywords for this, text-before-edge and -after-edge which are legacy kewyrods for SVG. If there's a desire for logical names we could undeprecate<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: Yeah but don't match anything else in css. In veritical lr more before and over edge don't coincide. I'm not sure which SVG thinks is what.<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: Difference between flow and line relative keywords<br>
&lt;dbaron> s/veritical lr more/vertical-lr mode/<br>
&lt;dael> Rossen_: myles brought up good point on issue about aligning with naming from font terms<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: Yeah. Fonts uses top and bottom I think. It's so deep it's exposed to author of font file in abbr form<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: I think so far removed from terms web authors use it's effectively not relevant<br>
&lt;dael> koji: THey are very different. Font is physical so top is not always over. CSS always takes text-top and -bottom as logical but in fonts text-top is physical<br>
&lt;fantasai> https://drafts.csswg.org/css-inline-3/#baseline-types<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: I don't think we should rename or alias keywords. Stick with text-top and -bottom. In spec prose use text over and under. THat's what I drafted ^<br>
&lt;dael> AmeliaBR: Given we're stuck with prop being vertical-align having keywords as desc from vertical alignment is prob okay.<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: Yeah, that's where I landed. Close no change<br>
&lt;dael> Rossen_: Are you saying current text-over?<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: Current spec does not add new keywords. Uses text-top and -bottom. Doesn't switch over anything. Spec prose when discussing uses text over or ideographic over in descriptions<br>
&lt;dael> Rossen_: I see<br>
&lt;dael> Rossen_: And leaving no change is closer to font terms as well besides weirdness koji mentioned<br>
&lt;dael> Rossen_: Prop is no change, leave as text-top and text-bottom<br>
&lt;dael> Rossen_: Thoughts or objections?<br>
&lt;dael> koji: Confirm- I think we're adding keywords for ideographic-top and -bottom?<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: I think we don't have -top, we just have ideographic which is the bottom edge. Inherited from SVG. NOt adding any keywords for top and bottom<br>
&lt;dael> chris: b/c they were originally baseline<br>
&lt;dael> Rossen_: Objections?<br>
&lt;dael> RESOLVED: No change<br>
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