Re: [csswg-drafts] [css-text-decor] Characters to skip for emphasis marks (text-emphasis)

The Working Group just discussed `[css-text-decor] Characters to skip for emphasis marks (text-emphasis)`, and agreed to the following resolutions:

* `RESOLVED: change the default behavior for emphasis marks in the current level of text decoration spec`

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&lt;dael> Topic: [css-text-decor] Characters to skip for emphasis marks (text-emphasis)<br>
&lt;dael> github: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/839<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: This is about emphasis marks that are the dots put over the character.  In general they're not on top of punctuation or spaces, jsut characters. When we drafted the css3 text for this koji and I asked what characters to skip.  At that time Japanese task force said usually skip punctuation but they might want to so you should put markup to skip.<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: That seemed to be their position and that's what we spec and then in L4 we added a property to control on punctuation or not etc.<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: We got a comment from someone as to why the dots are on the punct. That re-opened the topic. i18n said we should do the right thing by default and a control to allow other things.<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: Does the group want us to  change the behavior to only put emphasis on not-punctuation? Or keep the current behavior?<br>
&lt;Chris> it sounds like the right thing to do, and I guess unicode character classes help there<br>
&lt;dael> florian: If there's no compat contraints doing the right thing for default is better<br>
&lt;dael> many: I agree<br>
&lt;dael> Chris: Unicode character classes should make this fairly tractable<br>
&lt;fantasai> ^fantasai: Not skipping punctuation by default means authors have to do weird things with markup to get the right effect<br>
&lt;dael> florian: Some punct and symbols might be mixed up but mostly yes.<br>
&lt;dael> myles: Do you have specific text as to how to tell where they shoudl and should not go?<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: Looking at the reference.<br>
&lt;fantasai> https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-decor-4/#text-emphasis-skip<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: It's here^<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: Basically we'd propose to change th initial value to spaces and punctuation.<br>
&lt;dael> astearns: And change the default behavior to be that setting.<br>
&lt;dael> astearns: Is text-emphasis-skip impl?<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: No but if you don't impl you have to do the initial value. So we prt the behavior to L3<br>
&lt;dael> myles: Is there a reason  this should inheret spec from text emstyle?<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: Yes because you don't want to reset what should skip.<br>
&lt;dael> myles: Isn't skipping document wide?<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: Did I mix it up?<br>
&lt;dael> myles: No, no, you're right.<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: Kinda similar to why text underline position doesn't get reset by text decoration<br>
&lt;dael> myles: right. okay<br>
&lt;dael> astearns: Given we have at least one complaint about current behavior and i18n okay to change  it seems reasonable to me to move i t into the current level of the spec.<br>
&lt;dael> astearns: Objections to changing the default behavrio for emphasis marks in the current level o f text decoration spec?<br>
&lt;dael> RESOLVED: change the default behavior for emphasis marks in the current level of text decoration spec<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: I'll edit that  in and we can cycle backto republish next week.<br>
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