Re: Next CredWeb meeting in 48 hours!

These posts about StratML feel like spam to me. Does anyone else get value
out of them?

Jeffrey

On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 8:24 AM Owen Ambur <owen.ambur@verizon.net> wrote:

> I'll look forward to the discussion tomorrow.  In the meantime, I:
>
>    - updated the StratML rendition of IPTC's about statement, at
>    https://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#IPTC or, more specifically,
>    https://stratml.us/docs/IPTC2025.xml,
>    - created a StratML rendition of JournalList's about statement, at
>    https://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#JRNL or, more specifically,
>    https://stratml.us/docs/JRNL.xml, and
>    - prompted ChatGPT for insight on Scott and Leonard's exchange
>    <https://chatgpt.com/share/68767239-7eb0-800b-9651-b18cfe53439f>.
>
> Owen Ambur
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/owenambur/
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 15, 2025 at 02:20:50 AM EDT, Leonard Rosenthol <
> lrosenth@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>
> My comment about “out of date” is that the approach taking in the current
> spec doesn’t follow what I would consider “current best practices” for such
> work – so that if we were to look to bring something like trust.txt
> forward, there are (breaking) changes required (IMO).
>
>
>
> Leonard
>
>
>
> *From: *Scott Yates <scott@journallist.net>
> *Date: *Monday, July 14, 2025 at 10:43 PM
> *To: *Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>
> *Cc: *Credible Web CG <public-credibility@w3.org>, Sandro Hawke <
> sandro.hawke@gmail.com>, Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>, Tzviya
> Siegman <tzviya@w3.org>, Chris Needham <chris.needham@bbc.co.uk>
> *Subject: *Re: Next CredWeb meeting in 48 hours!
>
> *EXTERNAL: Use caution when clicking on links or opening attachments.*
>
>
>
> Leonard,
>
>
>
> The movement with trust.txt has been with the new functionality that I'll
> be talking about on Wednesday. It uses the current version of the spec.
> That is, no updates were required of the spec for the new way to use it.
>
>
>
> In other words, what seems "out of date" to you seems "stable and
> reliable" to me.
>
>
>
> -Scott Yates
>
> Founder
>
> JournalList.net <https://journallist.net/>, caretaker of the trust.txt
>  framework
>
> 202-742-6842 <(202)%20742-6842>
>
> Chair of W3C Credibility Group <https://www.w3.org/community/credibility/>
>
> Member IPTC <https://iptc.org/> and Rebuild Local News
> <https://www.rebuildlocalnews.org/>
>
> Short Video Explanation of trust.txt <https://youtu.be/lunOBapQxpU>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 11:47 AM Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>
> wrote:
>
> Scott – is there a newer version of the specification?  The one on the
> site seems pretty out of date at this point…
>
>
>
> Leonard
>
>
>
> *From: *Scott Yates <scott@journallist.net>
> *Date: *Monday, July 14, 2025 at 4:04 PM
> *To: *Credible Web CG <public-credibility@w3.org>
> *Cc: *Sandro Hawke <sandro.hawke@gmail.com>, Dominique Hazael-Massieux <
> dom@w3.org>, Tzviya Siegman <tzviya@w3.org>, Chris Needham <
> chris.needham@bbc.co.uk>
> *Subject: *Next CredWeb meeting in 48 hours!
>
> *EXTERNAL: Use caution when clicking on links or opening attachments.*
>
>
>
> Dear member of the CredWeb Community Group,
>
>
>
> The fourth in our series of Authentic Web Workshops is coming up 48 hours
> after I click send on this email, (8 a.m. in California, 9 a.m. in my home
> time zone in the mountains, 11 a.m. Eastern, 4 p.m. England, and 5 p.m. in
> France.)
>
>
>
> (I know this time isn't great for Japan/Australia. If anyone there would
> like, I'd be happy to repeat my presentation and take questions at a time
> that works better for you. Just let me know.)
>
>
>
> The project going under the microscope for this meeting is trust.txt,
> which happens to be my creation. Some of you have heard about trust.txt
> before, but you'll still want to join us because we have a new feature...
> For the first time in the history of the internet, there's a badge that can
> be visible on a web page that can't be duplicated in a way that would
> undermine trust. At least I can't imagine how it could be, but that's why
> we're road testing it with this group. Many of you have seen other
> well-intentioned efforts get misused, so I look forward to having you try
> to poke holes in this.
>
>
>
> Before then, I'll be doing some additional documentation in github and
> elsewhere. I would have done that before, but my life got somewhat
> swallowed by a different project.
>
>
>
> I was the one behind the new Local Journalism Index
> <https://muckrack.com/research/local-journalist-index>, which came out
> last week. It got a ton of attention, which is great. It may not seem like
> the number of journalists working in the country is related to a
> trustworthy internet, but I think there's a direct correlation. The less
> local news people have the more they need to fill the vacuum that's created
> by the very human need to have a flow of information in. More journalists
> fill that vacuum with more local news so it doesn't get filled with crap.
> So, check it out if it is of interest to you, and after we're done with the
> CredWeb meeting I'd be happy to stay after and answer any questions you may
> have about that Index.
>
>
>
> Thanks very much, and I look forward to seeing you all on Wednesday!
>
>
>
> -Scott Yates
>
> Founder
>
> JournalList.net <https://journallist.net/>, caretaker of the trust.txt
>  framework
>
> 202-742-6842 <(202)%20742-6842>
>
> Chair of W3C Credibility Group <https://www.w3.org/community/credibility/>
>
> Member IPTC <https://iptc.org/> and Rebuild Local News
> <https://www.rebuildlocalnews.org/>
>
> Short Video Explanation of trust.txt <https://youtu.be/lunOBapQxpU>
>
>