- From: Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>
- Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 12:59:27 -0400
- To: CredWeb CG <public-credibility@w3.org>
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Moving these note over from the internal to the public listserv.
Owen
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 22:22:22 -0400
From: Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>
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I finally found the time to check out the recording of the "election"
meeting and here are the highlights of which I took special note:
Aviv asked about the expectations, including the roles,
responsibilities, activities as well as the anticipated outputs and
outcomes. (As they are clarified, I will be happy to render them in
StratML Part 2, Performance Plan/Report, format.)
Scott suggested aiming for a quick win, encouraging others to do
what we think would be useful, and trying to build momentum.
Ted suggested starting with a relatively simple solution, i.e., a
concrete goal that is achievable.
Sandro inquired as to what results might be achievable within the
next 12 months. (In StratML parlance such results are called
"objectives"; longer-term desired results are called "goals".
Progress is tracked in performance indicators, which may be as
frequently recorded as desired.)
Aviv offered that the group might be a place for conversations but
not necessarily to produce outputs. However, he also suggested that
a registry of signals might be a good output. Subsequently, he
suggested that putting together a listing of existing efforts might
be the most useful output this group could produce. (To the degree
that signals/existing efforts may be identified and their purposes
are clear, I will render their plans in StratML format for potential
use in such a registry/listing. I'd also be interested to see what
HTML5/JSON/LOD partisans might be able to do along those lines.)
Ted suggested that a best practices document would be very useful.
Aviv expressed interest in finding a volunteer(s) to manage the
"machinery" supporting the group and Sandro pledged to assist with
the transition. (While I have little interest in managing that
machinery, I am very interested in documenting the group's
intentions, stakeholders, and results in open, standard,
machine-readable StratML format and may feel compelled to do that
regardless of anything that anyone else may or may not do -- as I
have already been doing at https://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#CWCG)
BTW, Aviv's about statement for the Thoughtful Technology Project are
now available in StratML format at
https://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#TTP2
Interestingly, a Google site-specific query
<https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Scott+Yates&btnG=Google+Search&domains=stratml.us&sitesearch=stratml.us>
of the StratML collection turns up no plans associated with Scott but
Bing uncovers
<https://www.bing.com/search?cp=1252&q=Scott+Yates&q1=site%3Astratml.us>
this one <https://stratml.us/carmel/iso/TI2ICAwStyle.xml>. Not sure what
Google has against him or the CredWeb CG but I doubt we're on Facebook's
whitelist
<https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-files-xcheck-zuckerberg-elite-rules-11631541353>
of their elite friends... or is the existence of such a list "fake
news"? Unfortunately, neither Bing nor Google find Scott in the
Certified Content Coalition's plan
<https://stratml.us/carmel/iso/CCC2wStyle.xml>. Nor do they find the
Coalition for Content Provenance and Authenticity
<https://stratml.us/carmel/iso/C2PAwStyle.xml>, headed up by Leonard.
Perhaps you can understand why I find neither of them particularly
trustworthy.
Incidentally, however, Bing does a much better job than Google indexing
StratML GUIDs <https://stratml.us/cusson/BingStratMLGUIDQueries.htm>.
For example, Google can't find the CredWeb CG based upon its StratML
GUID but Bing does
<https://www.bing.com/search?q=_ef6128c0-c7eb-11e8-b4aa-55c530b7c682&aqs=edge..69i57.611048590j0j0&FORM=ANAB01&PC=HCTS>.
Owen
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