- From: Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>
- Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 00:00:00 -0400
- To: CredWeb CG <public-credibility@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <0cb01427-a3aa-f3f3-6f0f-483a4b03749a@verizon.net>
Per Sandro's request, I'm copying this thread from the internal to the public listserv. The elements of Georg's plan are available in StratML format at https://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#EIUHFN As we become aware of them, I'll look forward to adding others to my listing at https://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#CWCG and particularly to seeing what result((s) this group plans to try to produce together. Owen On 9/5/2021 2:07 AM, Georg Rehm wrote: > Dear Bob, > >> On 5. Sep 2021, at 07:33, Bob Wyman <bob@wyman.us >> <mailto:bob@wyman.us>> wrote: >> >> Owen, >> […] >> >> Of course, the existing W3C Web Annotation protocol is incomplete, >> for the desired purpose, since it doesn't define the "search" >> function needed to discover annotations that are related to a >> specific URL. Personally, I think it would make sense for this group >> to define Credibility Signals as annotations and to define the >> additional protocol needed to allow discovery of such annotations. If >> we were to do this, then your "myriad AI-enabled intermediaries" >> would be able to publish their assessment of Alice's claim in a >> manner that is more likely to be discovered by readers of Alice's >> claim -- if only people were to use annotation clients... Your >> AI-bots might even be enhanced to search out other posts with similar >> claims and annotate them as well. > > just as a follow-up to what you sketched in your email, this is an > idea that I described in the following paper a number of years ago: > > Georg Rehm. “An Infrastructure for Empowering Internet Users to handle > Fake News and other Online Media Phenomena”. In Georg Rehm and Thierry > Declerck, editors, /Language Technologies for the Challenges of the > Digital Age: 27th International Conference, GSCL 2017, Berlin, > Germany, September 13-14, 2017/, Proceedings, number 10713 in Lecture > Notes in Artificial Intelligence (LNAI), pages 216-231, Cham, > Switzerland, 2018. Gesellschaft für Sprachtechnologie und > Computerlinguistik e.V., Springer. 13/14 September 2017. > > https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2F978-3-319-73706-5_19.pdf > <https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/978-3-319-73706-5_19.pdf> > > The article proposes an infrastructure to address phenomena of modern > online media production, circulation and manipula- tion > by establishing a distributed architecture for automatic > processing and human feedback. The main building blocks of the > proposed infrastructure are: natively embedded into the World Wide > Web, Web Annotations, Metadata Standards, Tools and Services, > Decentralised Repositories and Tools, Aggregation of Annotations. > > Best regards, > Georg > >> >> bob wyman >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 12:14 AM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net >> <mailto:Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>> wrote: >> >> Sandro, thank for sharing these audio/video recordings. >> >> Since Bob Wyman is troubled by the lack of capability to express >> to the world that he is not a communist, the purpose of this >> message is to offer him a potential means of relief: >> >> Publish his plan(s) on the Web in StratML Part 1, Strategic >> Plan (ISO 17469-1) format. >> >> If he were to do so, it would be fairly easy for myriad >> AI-enabled intermediary services to pretty well establish whether >> he is a communist or not, assuming of course that he honestly >> documents his vision, mission, values, goals, objectives, and >> stakeholders -- as best he understands them. >> >> With reference to Leonard Rosenthol's comment about verification, >> that depends upon whether performance indicators of actual >> results are reliably documented and shared -- preferably in >> records published in an open, standard, machine-readable format >> like StratML Part 2, Performance Plans & Reports (formerly >> ANSI/AIIM 22:2017). >> >> Lacking such indicators anyone's guesses and "assertions" >> [claims] are as good as anyone else's. Even if Bob does openly >> represent himself as a card-carrying communist, that alone >> doesn't truly make him one For example, he could be working as >> an undercover agent for the FBI ... or a spy for fascists ... or >> a college professor with tenure in an ivory tower insulated from >> reality. Or perhaps he may /mistakenly/ believe that he is a >> communist. >> >> What matters is the degree to which he actually participates in >> commandeering other people's property, discouraging personal >> initiative, denying personal responsibility, destroying economic >> incentives, and making everyone poorer, i.e., what real >> communists do. >> >> With respect to your concluding comment, I look forward to >> learning whether we can do more together than merely "attend a >> few meetings and exchange E-mail messages". Perhaps I'll have a >> better sense of that when I've had a chance to listen to >> recording of the meet-the-candidates meeting. If so, I'll >> "scribe" my understanding the the group's plan in StratML format. >> >> Owen >> > > > > *[deleted]*
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