- From: Bob Wyman <bob@wyman.us>
- Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2021 17:34:46 -0400
- To: Credible Web CG <public-credibility@w3.org>
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Many think that reliable credibility signals will be useful in addressing the problem of misinformation. But, how do credibility signals help, or hurt, when one highly credible speaker accuses another highly credible speaker of spreading misinformation? Can credibility signals make it harder to combat misinformation? Some context: On Sept 14, 2019, the New York Times carried an article discussing a medium.com post written a few days earlier by Lawrence Lessig. While the body of the article summarized Lessig's arguments with reasonable accuracy, its headline inaccurately described Lessig's position and did so in a way that Lessig believed caused him significant and lasting harm. (For context, see: https://clickbaitdefamation.org/ ) Lessig asked for a correction, but the New York Times, for quite some time, refused to act, saying that anyone who read the entire story would realize that the headline was inaccurate. Lessig argued that most people would believe that the headline was accurate, since the NYT is highly credible, and that most who saw the headline wouldn't read the entire article. Eventually, the NYT backed down and made a correction to the online story. The New York Times is widely considered to be highly credible. It has been publishing for a long time, it has won thousands of awards, and can present many other indicators of credibility that could be captured in signals. Lawrence Lessig, a law professor at Harvard, co-founder of CreativeCommons.org, winner of many awards, and once presidential candidate, is also able to present many positive credibility signals. Yet, Lessig and the New York Times are in conflict. In this case, not about an article, but just the article's headline. Given the Lessig v NYT controversy, how do credibility signals help or hurt the ability of third-party readers to correctly identify misinformation? How would credibility signals have helped limit the impact of the misinformation in the New York Times' headline? Also, while Lessig was able to mobilize his considerable public reputation and spend a great deal of effort and expense in combating the NYT, we must wonder if someone without his many positive credibility signals would have found it dramatically harder, if not impossible, to either defend themselves or convince the NYT to correct the headline. When a highly credible source spreads misinformation about someone whose credibility can't be well established, should credibility signals be considered harmful or counter-productive? Given the web as we know it, Lessig was able to rebut the NYT article by writing a 3,500 word piece on medium.com. Lessig also coined the term "Clickbate Defamation" and created a website devoted to it. Further, he contacted the New York TImes, he was interviewed by a variety of other news organizations, and he created a podcast series to lay out his case in detail. He also filed a legal suit for damages against the New York Times. Of course, even with all that effort, only a tiny fraction of those who read the NYT piece ever became aware of Lessig's determined and voluminous rebuttals. His credibility remains severely challenged in the opinion of many readers of the original story who never saw the follow-up. Had Lessig fought less, or been less well-known, it is quite possible that the correction would not have been made. The New York Time remains, of course, considered by many to be a credible publisher. There are a couple interesting "mechanical" issues here: - While the New York Times would be likely to present, embedded on its own website, a great many signals attesting to their own credibility and to that of their writers, they are unlikely to be as vigorous in presenting similar signals concerning the many subjects of their writing. Thus, within the context of any story, the signals are always likely to be very biased towards the writer or the publication. Is a reliance on one-sided, self-asserted credibility signals a problem that should be addressed? Should there be a way to "inject" off-site, but relevant, credibility signals into the readers' context? If so, how? - Unless the New York Times provides for comments (they only do so on some stories), any rebuttals of their articles, or challenges to their credibility, are likely to be seen by only a tiny percentage of those who read the rebutted articles or statements. Even when comment sections are provided, the NYT moderates those comments, controls their presentation, etc. Thus, it is likely that even if Lessig had been able to write a comment on the NYT site, few readers of the headline, or even of the full article, would have seen the comment. (Note: Annotation systems could help here, if more widely used.) Should credibility signals be useful in a case such as the Lessig v NYT controversy? If so, how are they useful? What is their role? If they are not useful, or are counter-productive, what is the value of credibility signals? Can the utility of credibility signals be increased by some change to their design or implementation? bob wyman
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