Re: Decentralized Fact-checking & Provenance Organization (DeFacto) Community Group launched

Adam,

On your idea, have you tested it with any CMS before? If not, can we give
it a try?

"
*P.S.:* On these technical topics of decentralized fact-checking, I would
like to share some ideas about uses of custom elements with other
JavaScript libraries to enable visual indicators to be provided for each
asserted fact or claim such that end-users would be able to both quickly
consult these visual indicators and open context menus on them to obtain
more information.

These custom elements could utilize something resembling Magnet URIs (or an
extension to these for using embedding vectors or derived data).

<verifiable-fact see="magnet:?xv=...">Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet,
consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et
dolore magna aliqua.</verifiable-fact>

These custom elements could also be interoperable with blockchain-based
technologies.

How might content authors easily enter facts or claims into their
documents? With respect to popular content-management systems, the syntax
for so doing might resemble that of existing shortcodes like [quote].

[fact]Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do
eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua.[/fact]

As considered, during content-publishing processes, authors'
content-management systems (e.g., Drupal, WordPress) or configurable
plugins or extensions for these systems would handle searching for existing
paraphrases, adding new facts or claims (if needed), obtaining the data for
use in the see attributes, caching these data, and generating markup
documents."


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*Mohith Agadi*
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On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 07:00 Adam Sobieski <adamsobieski@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Owen,
> All,
>
> Hello. I'm also eager to learn more about the new group, its vision,
> potential synergies with existing groups, and plans with respect to
> specifications.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Adam
>
> *P.S.:* On these technical topics of decentralized fact-checking, I would
> like to share some ideas about uses of custom elements with other
> JavaScript libraries to enable visual indicators to be provided for each
> asserted fact or claim such that end-users would be able to both quickly
> consult these visual indicators and open context menus on them to obtain
> more information.
>
> These custom elements could utilize something resembling Magnet URIs (or
> an extension to these for using embedding vectors or derived data).
>
> <verifiable-fact see="magnet:?xv=...">Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet,
> consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et
> dolore magna aliqua.</verifiable-fact>
>
> These custom elements could also be interoperable with blockchain-based
> technologies.
>
> How might content authors easily enter facts or claims into their
> documents? With respect to popular content-management systems, the syntax
> for so doing might resemble that of existing shortcodes like [quote].
>
> [fact]Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do
> eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua.[/fact]
>
> As considered, during content-publishing processes, authors'
> content-management systems (e.g., Drupal, WordPress) or configurable
> plugins or extensions for these systems would handle searching for existing
> paraphrases, adding new facts or claims (if needed), obtaining the data for
> use in the see attributes, caching these data, and generating markup
> documents.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Owen Ambur <owen.ambur@verizon.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 8, 2025 2:40 PM
> *To:* public-council@w3.org <public-council@w3.org>; Jeffrey Yasskin <
> jyasskin@google.com>
> *Cc:* Raphaël Troncy <raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr>; Adam Sobieski <
> adamsobieski@hotmail.com>; Mohith Agadi <mohith@fact.technology>; Manoj
> Agadi <support@fact.technology>; Ajit Nongmaithem <nong.ajit@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Decentralized Fact-checking & Provenance Organization
> (DeFacto) Community Group launched
>
> I defer to others to answer this question.  However, the initiatives
> considered by the CredWeb CG are documented in StratML format at
> https://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#CWCG
>
> I look forward to:
>
> a) rendering this group's plan in StratML format as well,
> b) using the stratml:Relationship
> <https://stratml.us/references/oxygen/PerformancePlanOrReport20160216_xsd..htm#Relationship> elements
> to document and link its performance indicators to other efforts, and
> c) documenting any results the group may produce.
>
> Whether I decide to participate in the group will depend upon the degree
> to which it decides to consider the revelvance of sharing performance
> metrics in an open, standard, machine-readable format.  In that regard,
> ChatGPT concludes:
>
> ... StratML embodies the principles of trust, transparency, scalability,
> and provenance—core values that resonate deeply with the group's vision
> statement. Publishing the DFCP’s strategic and performance documents in
> StratML format would not only align with but also actively support the
> realization of its vision and mission.
>
> The details of ChatGPT's logic leading to that conclusion are available
> here <https://chatgpt.com/c/677ea427-4c1c-800b-9218-5d779e785aee>.
>
> Needless to say, I believe the purposes of all of the W3C's groups would
> be well served by publishing their performance plans and reports in open,
> standard, machine-readable format.
>
> Owen Ambur
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/owenambur/
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 8, 2025 at 01:13:52 PM EST, Jeffrey Yasskin <
> jyasskin@google.com> wrote:
>
>
> How does this overlap with the Credible Web CG at
> https://www.w3.org/community/credibility/, which
> https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/483 says is the likely place to
> investigate provenance questions?
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 8:06 AM <public-council@w3.org> wrote:
>
> With your support, the Decentralized Fact-checking & Provenance
> Organization (DeFacto) Community Group has been launched:
>   https://www.w3.org/community/defacto/
>
> This group was originally proposed on 2024-12-14 by Mohith Agadi.
> The following people supported its creation:
>   Raphaël Troncy
>   Adam Sobieski
>   Mohith Agadi
>   Manoj Agadi
>   Ajit Nongmaithem
>
> To join the group, please use:
>   https://www.w3.org/community/defacto/join
>
> Please note that supporting a group is different from joining
> a group. Supporters must also enroll if they wish to participate.
>
> --------------------
> The Decentralized Fact-checking &amp; Provenance Working Group (DFCP) is
> committed to actively researching, developing, building, maintaining,
> managing, upgrading, and implementing robust amendments for a decentralized
> fact-checking system and stringent provenance standards for text-based
> literature and content. We will drive this initiative forward with
> determination and efficacy.
>
> DFCP strives to empower societies with tools to identify and
> mitigate/counter misinformation, disinformation, and Fake News at scale.
>
> This group will publish Specifications.
> --------------------
>
> Thank you,
>
> W3C Community Development Team
>
>
>