- From: Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2025 19:19:58 +0800
- To: Adam Sobieski <adamsobieski@hotmail.com>
- Cc: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>, Alan Buxey <alan.buxey@gmail.com>, "public-council@w3.org" <public-council@w3.org>, Sutida Kerdsuwan <k.sutida@gmail.com>, JASON NOIPROM <j_spaceship@outlook.co.th>, Anuj Desai <dez@montessori365.com>
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Ian, and everyone sorry for the confusion and thanks for checking I have now corrected the link in the AI KR CG wiki and in the breakout session description https://github.com/w3c/tpac2025-breakouts/issues/90 with the link to the right demo If some notes are going out to breakout participants, it could be worth mentioning the correction there as well for the record *becasue there is so much going on and everything is in such state of flux it is so difficult to get people to pay attention to what one says and does, even just for a few minutes. and what they may have seen in the early demo could not match what I described verbally Considering we are launching a new CG at a minimum we must demo something that does not require an API and that does not break This does the job I think for the moment, but remains a stump https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1gUv-7BVA_Ed6rS0jVBB9O8AJogRk3OvK?usp=sharing Adam, the idea is to create a tool that can support the consensus process around the generation of technical specifications, but I am still working on different modules on how to demo that. *you can imagine the headache The technical documentation support you mention as a secondary benefit is a big deal and needs to be studied a bit. Look forward to discussing the options. Until then Best On Mon, Dec 8, 2025 at 7:40 AM Adam Sobieski <adamsobieski@hotmail.com> wrote: > Paola, > Ian, > All, > > With respect to ways that AI can assist in standards-writing processes, > perhaps code-documentation generation is a useful analogue. > > Along these lines, I found an article: > https://overcast.blog/ai-code-documentation-generators-a-guide-b6cd72cd0ec4 which > listed the following products and services: > > 1. Swimm - https://swimm.io/ > 2. Qodo - https://www.qodo.ai/ > 3. DocuWriter.ai - http://www.docuwriter.ai/ > 4. Workik AI - http://www.workik.com/ > 5. CodeGPT - http://www.codegpt.co/ > 6. Docify > 7. CodePal - https://codepal.ai/code-documentation > > Many of these tools can integrate into CI/CD pipelines, enabling the > automatic updating of code documentation during deployments, in response to > codebase changes. > > Standard models and schemas for technical requirements (intended for AI > consumption) could be useful. With these, individuals, teams, and > organizations could create, fine-tune, maintain, and otherwise invest time > into their technical requirements about their documents' components, such > that these requirements would subsequently be interoperable with and > portable across AI projects, tools, products, and services. > > As shared, there exist tools to extract technical requirements about > documents from natural-language documents. > > In theory, in addition to generating code documentation, AI could generate > illustrative examples, and/or could evaluate these using provided technical > requirements. > > Interestingly, resultant technical documentation could be consumed by > IDE-integrated AI assistants. IDE-integrated AI assistants could consult, > cite, and refer software developers to (selections of) technical documents > while answering more of developers' contextual, situational, > natural-language questions arising during their software-development > processes. > > That's my two cents. Looking forward to collaborating in the new CG. > > > Best regards, > Adam > > P.S.: I think that the resource with a hyperlink to a previous version of > that demo is here: > https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/wiki/AI_DRIVEN_WEB_STANDARDS_GENERATOR ? > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org> > *Sent:* Sunday, December 7, 2025 10:05 AM > *To:* Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com> > *Cc:* Adam Sobieski <adamsobieski@hotmail.com>; Alan Buxey < > alan.buxey@gmail.com>; public-council@w3.org <public-council@w3.org>; > Sutida Kerdsuwan <k.sutida@gmail.com>; JASON NOIPROM < > j_spaceship@outlook.co.th>; Anuj Desai <dez@montessori365.com> > *Subject:* Re: AI-Driven Web Standards Specification Community Group > launched > > Hi Paola, > > There is no link to any demo in the Community Group description: > https://www.w3.org/community/aiwss/ > > Is there another resource you are referring to? > > Ian > > > On Dec 7, 2025, at 2:08 AM, Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Public Council, Ian, Adam and everyone > > AI > > Thanks again for supporting the launch of the AIWSS community > > > > To my horror I just realized that the DEMO pointed in the CG description > > is the wrong one *arrgh > > There demo is not this *which is a previous working draft of the demo > > > > But it should be this which is the current working draft > > They are bot in principle proofs of concept only at this stage > > but one is better formed than the other > > > > I wonder if it would be possible to update the web page and/notify the > breakout participants > > of the unfortunate mishap when sending out the breakout notes > > > > I was working on multiple web pages, presentations, recordings at the > time, with a typhoon breaking up connectivity > > Thanks Adam for bringing my attention to this project today *had not > looked at it since drafting > > I ll place a redirect link in the V1 as well > > Apologies for the incovenience > > > > PDM > > > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 2:42 AM Adam Sobieski <adamsobieski@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > Paola Di Maio, > > All, > > > > Hello. I'm looking forward to participating in the new group's > mailing-list discussions and activities and to learning more about the > variety of ways that AI technologies can enhance collaborative technical > documentation authoring and all related processes and procedures. > > > > In these regards, for example, I plan to share with the new group some > hyperlinks to the Omnipedia project (https://github.com/wikius/omnipedia, > https://omnipedia-client.pages.dev/) which I hope showcase how a team > could use AI to evaluate technical documentation using provided > requirements. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Adam Sobieski > > > > From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2025 1:37 AM > > To: public-council@w3.org <public-council@w3.org> > > Cc: Adam Sobieski <adamsobieski@hotmail.com>; Sutida Kerdsuwan < > k.sutida@gmail.com>; JASON NOIPROM <j_spaceship@outlook.co.th>; Anuj > Desai <dez@montessori365.com> > > Subject: Re: AI-Driven Web Standards Specification Community Group > launched > > Thank you for supporting the launch of this CG > > I know Adam from previous exchanges *hellow Adam > > but not sure I have interacted with others yet. > > > > It would be great if we could introduce ourselves > > > > My name is Paola Di Maio and I am the Chair of the AI KR CG, After many > years of observing the going > > we have started to work towards shaping some artifacts to map the domain > KR *knowledge representation > > This is a long and slow process but the sure way to grasp what is going > on in AI > > > > Now that we have some artefacts ready to share, it would be great to > figure out a way of getting them > > through consultation quickly, and then publish the most useful > artefacts/specification to share them with the world > > > > This is how this new CG is coming into being. How can we move the > useful outcomes from CGs > > into a spec/W3C standard ? > > > > I ll be consulting with community liaison soon to this effect, in the > meantime, hope to get to meet you and look for a way > > forward > > > > Best regards > > > > > > Paola Di Maio, > > > > On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 10:15 PM <public-council@w3.org> wrote: > > With your support, the AI-Driven Web Standards Specification Community > Group has been launched: > > https://www.w3.org/community/aiwss/ > > > > This group was originally proposed on 2025-11-17 by Paola Di Maio. > > The following people supported its creation: > > Paola Di Maio > > Adam Sobieski > > Sutida Kerdsuwan > > JASON NOIPROM > > Anuj Desai > > > > To join the group, please use: > > https://www.w3.org/community/aiwss/join > > > > Please note that supporting a group is different from joining > > a group. Supporters must also enroll if they wish to participate. > > > > -------------------- > > The mission of this group is to develop AI-driven tools and > methodologies to support the creation, evaluation, and publication of web > standards specifications. This initiative emerges from a TPAC 2025 breakout > session and builds upon foundational work by the [AI Knowledge > Representation Community Group (AI KR CG)]( > https://www.w3.org/groups/cg/aikr/), recognizing that the evolution of > web standards development processes can benefit from thoughtful integration > of artificial intelligence capabilities. > > > > The web standards development process has evolved organically over three > decades, relying primarily on human expertise, collaborative discussion, > and iterative refinement. While this approach has successfully produced > robust standards, it faces several contemporary challenges. Artificial > intelligence systems have demonstrated capabilities in natural language > understanding, technical documentation generation, pattern recognition, and > systematic evaluation that could augment human expertise in standards > development. This group plans to explore how AI can serve as a > collaborative tool while preserving the essential human judgment, domain > expertise, and community consensus that define legitimate standards work. > > > > Vision: To develop open, transparent AI systems that augment human > capability in web standards specification development, making the process > more efficient, accessible, and robust while maintaining the integrity and > consensus-driven nature of W3C standards. > > -------------------- > > > > Thank you, > > > > W3C Community Development Team > > > > -- > Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org> > https://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/ > Tel: +1 917 450 8783 > > > > > >
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