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Re: to recycle old and inactive CG (Community I/O) or to propose new one (Collaborative Economy)?

From: Daniel Harris <daniel@kendra.org.uk>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:17:57 +0100
Cc: public-council@w3.org, harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org>, "public-social-interest@w3.org" <public-social-interest@w3.org>
Message-Id: <AA4811C2-B336-4206-8DD9-DEE3CB1FCDF7@kendra.org.uk>
To: ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>
Hi Pavlik (and All),

Good call!...

On 20 Aug 2015, at 13:07, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org> wrote:
> Hello,
> I would like to ask for advice on what online venue I should use for a
> very particular collaboration.
> Long time ago I created Community I/O Community Group
> https://www.w3.org/community/community-io

I like the idea of recycling old/unused venues and making them used. But I'm unsure if you mean changing the name of community-io to collecon (or even if that's possible). Or moving members of community-io to a new collecon group. If you/we decide to create a new group then may be good housekeeping to kill off the old unused ones. That said I like "IO". ;-) Perhaps collaboration-io?

> After some attempts to collaborate, it became inactive for long time. I
> also realize now that I set context way to broad and not related to any
> already established concept.
> Lately a lot of very relevant work happens around topic of
> *Collaborative Economy*. Also W3C Social Activity (WG & IG) launched and
> superseded Federated Social Web CG. It also references Social Business
> Community Group, which closed last year.
> https://www.w3.org/community/socbizcg
> I cc Harry since he gave talk during OuiShare Labs Camp 2014 in Paris,
> and could see growing interest among people working with Collaborative
> (Sharing) Economy online platforms, to build them in more interoperable
> way. Video from "Decentralized Tools and Networks for Communities" panel
> https://youtu.be/3vubqzjL3fs "
> Since than, many new open source project emerged working in field of
> Collaborative Economy and I would like to offer a venue to various
> people who work on them to give more focus to make them gradually more
> interoperable.
> I consider proposing Collaborative Economy Community Group, following
> naming used on social media. (for example on twitter
> https://twitter.com/hashtag/CollaborativeEconomy) and using #collecon
> IRC channel and collecon-public@w3.org mailing list.

I must admit I prefer "Collaboration IO" to "Collaborative Economy". Use #collabio?

But, I guess, if you are trying to appeal to those who are conversant with "Collaborative Economy" (a la OuiShare, Shareable...) then perhaps the more well used/recognised words are more appropriate and better to get engagement and adoption.

> We would focus there on closely following work in Social WG&IG,
> Credentials CG and Schema.org CG (where schema.org imported Good
> Relations vocabulary). Also having more freedom to work together with
> Social IG on more specific use cases which receive push back in Social
> WG, for example:
> *
> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/Social_API/User_stories#Offering_asparagus
> *
> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/Social_API/User_stories#Demanding_help_with_the_harvest
> *
> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/Social_API/User_stories#Reshare_friend.27s_ridesharing_demand
> Initially I plan to invite people developing those open source platforms
> * https://github.com/sharetribe/sharetribe
> ** old article by on of co-founders
> http://www.shareable.net/blog/an-api-for-sharing
> * https://github.com/Hylozoic/hylo-node
> * https://github.com/trustroots/trustroots/
> * https://github.com/inventaire/inventaire
> ** lead developer moderated mentioned panel discussion with Harry
> * https://github.com/openfoodfoundation/openfoodnetwork
> ** they already work together with someone implementing LDP
> * https://github.com/foodcoops/foodsoft
> * https://github.com/producerun/producerun
> * https://github.com/heaven7/wsl
> * https://github.com/raph-ael/yunity

Though Kendra Initiative is media and rights focused it is increasingly involved in distributed collaborative systems. So, count https://github.com/kendraio in!

> Few other developers expressed interest to collaborate via
> * https://github.com/ouisharelabs/food-dashboard/issues/1
> And use cases like 'Offering asparagus' and 'Demanding help with the
> harvest' will come crucial in this context.
> I see couple of options
> 1. Starting fresh Collaborative Economy CG and closing Community I/O CG
> 2. Recycling Community I/O and renaming it, plus setting more clear
> context (if possibl)

I'd say do 1. only if 2. is not possible. It's good to start with an existing group of people.

Or if 2 is not possible can users be moved to a new group?

> 3. Working outside of W3C and coordinating with Social IG

Worst option. W3C provides good umbrella.

> I believe some other possibilities exist and I would very much
> appreciate your advice :)
> Thank you!
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