- From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:24:33 -0600
- To: timeless <timeless@gmail.com>
- Cc: public-council@w3.org
On 29 Nov 2012, at 8:17 AM, timeless wrote:
> First, you aren't using the simple English "specification", you're
> using the title-cased "Specification" (yes the explanation is
> lowercase).
>
> Second, I think in English a "specification" is seen as heavier than a
> "recommendation".
Those words mean different things:
* Recommendation: "W3C Recommends this."
* Specification: "This document specifies a format or protocol"
Those are apples and oranges.
That's why I think we need a sort of status class name ("Report") whatever the nature of the document ("use cases", "specification", "guidelines", "primer", ...)
Ian
>
> Third, consider Wikipedia's page on the subject [1]:
> Specification (technical standard)
> "Specification" redirects here. For other uses, see Specification
> (disambiguation).
>
> As far as Wikipedia is concerned, a specification _is_ a technical standard.
>
> The reason for this suggestion thread is to prevent people from
> misinterpreting resultant documents.
>
> Thinking about this further and certainly based on this message, I
> think the word "specification" shouldn't be in documents.
>
> Since you were trading on "simple English", how about substituting
> "proposal" everywhere that "specification" is currently used.
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specification_(technical_standard)
>
> On 11/29/12, Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 27 Nov 2012, at 12:48 AM, timeless wrote:
>>
>>> (I may have written on this before, but, oh well.)
>>>
>>> Relation to Standards Track [1].
>>>> The specification must not cause confusion about its status, in
>>>> particular with respect to W3C Technical Reports.
>>>> For example, specifications must not suggest that they are standards or
>>>> on the standards-track.
>>>
>>> I think this second sentence is problematic on its own.
>>>
>>> CGs can publish documents as proposals for specifications, but not
>>> specifications.
>>
>> Why do you say that?
>>
>> What do you mean by "specification?" I think it's ok to use the word in its
>> English-language sense of "specifies something."
>>
>> I could imagine this scenario or similar:
>>
>> Class: CG Draft Report or (when done) CG Report
>> Instance (of title): "The Foo Specification"
>>
>>>
>>> "Documents SHOULD indicate that they are NOT specifications. They MAY
>>> indicate that they are PROPOSALs for specifications. With the
>>> following suggested text: «This is not a specification.» «This is a
>>> proposal for a specification.»"
>>>
>>>> For draft specifications,
>>> ...
>>>> <p>Copyright © YEAR(S) the Contributors to the SPECIFICATION NAME/VERSION
>>>> Specification,
>>>
>>> "Specification" should be replaced with "DRAFT Specification".
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> For final specifications,
>>>
>>> Personally, while CGs aren't publishing REQ track documents, I think
>>> that the outcome should be FINAL PROPOSED Specification.
>>>
>>>> The following paragraph appears at the top of each draft specification:
>>>> <p>This specification was published by the <a
>>>
>>> Insert DRAFT.
>>>
>>>> The following paragraph appears at the top of each final specification:
>>>> <p>This specification was published by the
>>>
>>> Insert FINAL PROPOSED
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/community/reports/reqs/
>>>
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>>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
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