Re: Some templates started [Was: Missing op agreement warning]

On 27 Dec 2012, at 12:03 PM, Young, Milan wrote:

>> From: Ian Jacobs [mailto:ij@w3.org]
>> 
>> On 26 Dec 2012, at 3:20 PM, Young, Milan wrote:
>> 
>>>> From: Ian Jacobs [mailto:ij@w3.org]
>>>> Regarding language when there is no operational agreement / charter
>>>> (Wayne, I note the request above to drop "operational agreement"),
>>>> here's an
>>>> alternative:
>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> Note: This group does not (yet) have a charter that describes its
>>>> scope, deliverables, and decision process. While W3C recommends that
>>>> CGs operate by consensus, this is not a requirement. In the absence
>>>> of a charter describing the group's decision process, participants
>>>> are encouraged to seek additional information (e.g., from the group's
>>>> Chair). Groups that clearly document their practices promote
>>>> participation, build trust, and avoid conflict that arises from differing
>> expectations.
>>> 
>>> [Milan] This proposal suggests statements from the chair (public or private)
>> are substitutes for an operational agreement.  Since the W3M does not have a
>> track record of enforcing commitments from the chair, this is misleading.
>> 
>> What is misleading?
> 
> [Milan] The implication of your statement above is that one can communicate with the chair to learn of operational procedures if an op-agreement is missing.  The problem is that the chair has no requirement to hold to their statements, which would likely surprise the reader.  Thus, your statement is misleading.  

I think our obligation is to say "You must be attentive." I do not think our obligation is to scare people off.

Ian


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