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Re: Question for Chairs: Plans to use/desire for four lists? [was Re: Feedback - email lists]

From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:04:17 -0500
Cc: Gerald Oskoboiny <gerald@w3.org>, Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>, "ri@odrl.net" <ri@odrl.net>, public-council@w3.org
Message-Id: <15C53E93-D511-48C1-8B99-244B47D1D532@w3.org>
To: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org>

On 11 Jul 2011, at 9:39 AM, Harry Halpin wrote:

> On 07/11/2011 01:45 AM, Gerald Oskoboiny wrote:
>> * Dominique Hazael-Massieux<dom@w3.org>  [2011-07-01 14:33+0200]
>>> Le vendredi 01 juillet 2011 à 22:12 +1000, ri@odrl.net a écrit :
>>>> I am slightly confused as to why we need the 4 default email lists.
>>> The 4 default list are:
>>> * public-shortname : publicly archived list where only people who have
>>> signed the CLA agreement can participate; unless I'm mistaken, anything
>>> sent to that list can be considered as a contribution under the CLA
>>> terms
>>> * public-shortname-contrib: publicly archived list open to external
>>> subscriptions where discussions with people that have not signed the CLA
>>> agreement can participate
>> quick correction: public-shortname is writable by anyone and the
>> -contrib lists are writable only by those who have signed the CLA.
> So, essentially the "public" lists are equivalent to "-comment" list in Working Groups, and the "contrib" The "internal" lists are equivalent to the "private" lists for W3C Groups.
> Two questions for chairs of CGs:
> 1) Does any group plan to use/want an "contrib" list?
> 2) However, does any group plan to use/want an "internal" list?

Now that I'm back let me explain in more detail:

1) We decided to do four lists for community groups and business groups. You are not required to use all four lists.
2) Community Groups must use the public lists for work and may use the private lists for administrative information or sensitive information.
3) Business Groups may use either, and may change at any time.
4) The IPR policy is contribution-based, unlike the W3C patent policy. Thus, we strongly urge groups to use the *-contrib list to manage text contributions to any specification. That will make it easier later (if we need) to find out who contributed what, when.
5) Groups need ways to interact with the rest of the world, independent of contributions. That's what the lists are that don't have "contrib" in the name.

So, while you are not REQUIRED to use any list for a particular purpose, we are strongly urging you to use them as described. For a Community Group, the group is _unlikely_ to use the internal-*-contrib list. For the moment, we are creating it nonetheless because we don't have experience yet.

Hope that helps,


>       cheers,
>              harry

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