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Re: Hewlett-Packard Web Accessibility Team Review of WCAG 2.0

From: Ben Caldwell <caldwell@trace.wisc.edu>
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:01:40 -0500
Message-ID: <43135B94.4070406@trace.wisc.edu>
To: "Stelzer, Melinda" <melinda.stelzer@hp.com>
CC: public-comments-wcag20@w3.org

Dear Melinda,

Thank you for your comments on the 30 June 2005 Working Draft of WCAG
2.0. A list of issues related to comments you have made is available at:
<http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/buglist.cgi?keywords=Melinda_Stelzer>

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Thank you for your patience while the WCAG WG responds to the variety
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All the best,

-Ben

-- 
Ben Caldwell | <caldwell@trace.wisc.edu>
Trace Research and Development Center <http://trace.wisc.edu>

Stelzer, Melinda wrote:
> Hello WCAG working group:
> 
> Thanks for this opportunity to again comment on WCAG 2.0.  I was happy
> to see that many of my comments from last time had been addressed.  Here
> are my comments on the 30 June 2005 draft.
> 
> VALID CONTENT:
> I support the inclusion of HTML validity as priority 1.  I agree that
> HTML validation is too often ignored by page developers.  I do not agree
> with the statement that "it is too difficult to validate code".  If an
> HTML page is that difficult to correct, it ought to be rewritten!  Most
> pages only contain a few validation errors which could easily be fixed
> if the developer took the time to validate them.  Stating that some
> validation errors are ok is copping out -- delivering the message that
> conformance to HTML syntax criteria is not important.  If some of the
> syntax rules are not important, maybe we should change the syntax rules
> to include only what is important.
> 
> 2 OR 3 LEVELS:
> Having two levels instead of three would simplify things for people who
> would otherwise be overwhelmed by the volume of the guidelines. Give
> people the most important considerations, and don't distract them with
> the lower priority ones.  
> As for removing the level 3 items, I would advocate keeping this
> knowledge somewhere that people can still see it if they are interested.
> I would not just throw it away.
> What about having another document in the document set, that contains
> what we currently know as the level 3 items, and calling it something
> else, like "more stuff you can do to be more accessible if you want"?
> GUIDELINE 1.2:
> I would advocate keeping the transcript requirement at level 1 and
> moving the caption requirement to level 2.  Often it is beyond
> budget/schedule/skillset/feasibility to provide captions, but a
> transcript is readily available.  It would be good to encourage people
> to satisfy level 1 rather than give up entirely.
> Likewise, I would move audio descriptions to level 2.
> 
> GUIDELINE 2.1:
> Please provide examples of functionality that can be described in a
> sentence, and examples of functionality that can not be described in a
> sentence.  I.e.,  you state that this success criterion applies to
> functionality  "where the functionality or its outcome can be described
> in a sentence".  I don't understand why you include that clause.  Is
> there a reason for it? If so, show me examples of things that fall
> inside and things that fall outside of that spec.  If there is no reason
> for having that clause, (if such examples can not be provided) then
> please delete it.
> 
> GUIDELINE 2.4:
> Please provide informative guidelines on how to satisfy the Level 1
> success criterion.  It's not clear to me how programs should determine
> navigational elements.  Should a program be able distinguish the
> navigational controls/menus on a page from just links that are embedded
> in the content?
> 
> GUIDELINE 3.2
> Same comment as for guideline 2.4 -- It's not clear how a change of
> context would be programmatically determined.
> 
> This page
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-WCAG20-GENERAL-20050630/guideline1.2.html
> Gives me an XML error and can not be displayed in IE.
> 
> ------------------------------------
> Melinda Stelzer
> Program Manager
> HP Web Technical Standards
> melinda@hp.com
> 562-856-0408
> 
> 
> 
Received on Monday, 29 August 2005 19:02:01 UTC

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