Hi Sarah, > I had suggested in previous emails redoing the survey, as the original survey question and response options were not clear. Could the chairs facilitate that? I think the discussion based on the survey was quite clear – we all had different ideas about what would count as a visual indicator. > In answer to Alastair's questions below, I would respond, “Yes” to all! I would characterise that as an approach of allowing for context to set expectations of whether things have controls appearing on-hover. In which case: 1. The is different from input we’ve had from other people in COGA, where other people were taking a stricter view. 2. I don’t see value in the SC if that is the case, it wouldn’t catch very much. > We need to trust designers and developers judgment and give them agency in meeting SCs in a way that’s appropriate for the context and current conventions. We also need a way to evaluate pass/fail, otherwise it is advice rather a testable guideline. That isn’t a negative thing, it is covered well in: https://www.w3.org/TR/coga-usable/#clearly-identify-controls-and-their-use-pattern It would also fit nicely into the (currently termed) ‘convention tests’ in WCAG3: https://rawgit.com/w3c/silver/update_test_section/guidelines/index.html#convention-tests Kind regards, -Alastair
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