- From: Lisa Seeman <lisa1seeman@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 10:50:35 +0300
- To: Rain Michaels <rainb@google.com>
- Cc: public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAKExBMK9v5A_VDZ-URb9Oi7W9ZTf_TBOFdSemXw2p2qZcqFEbA@mail.gmail.com>
I am not sure I am following but I strongly disagree with diluting the wording of accessible authentication to allow crazy , non paistable password ID combinations to be allowed just because you can view the password. Is that the proposal? My current bank has that and I have to call my accountant to login for me on a regular basis! It helps but anther mechanism is much better! All the best Lisa On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 10:57 PM Rain Michaels <rainb@google.com> wrote: > Hello COGA task force, > > We discussed a new response from COGA to SC 3.3.7 Accessible > Authentication - add requirement / control to "show password" for end-users > #1912 <https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/1912>. Since the discussion was > going long, we decided that I would try to draft a response and share it > with the group for comment. > > The new draft response is ready for your comments below. You can also > review and suggest edits or make comments on the Google Doc version > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SmAbdQG-ei1DrWewx61YX93gGsHUo_VM15-FDLlnP9M/edit#heading=h.o49dk19joyzp> > if that is easier. > > Thank you, > > Rain > > > For context, our response to the original issue > <https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/1912#issue-923218389>: > > As COGA, we recommend that there should be a feature that is a toggle that > says “show password/hide password” that enables the user to see their > password as they enter it. At the same time, this is something that should > be in the understanding document. This is technically not a cognitive > function test, which is what the SC is about. > > Summary of responses since ours: > > - > > Alastair and Jake still felt it should be a new requirement > - > > Patrick felt that it would be okay to add it to the understanding > document as long as it was clear it was a best practice or suggestion and > not required to pass the success criterion > - > > Alastair proposed adding this text to the understanding document: “Another > factor that can improve the chances of success for people with cognitive > disabilities is being able to see the password as it is typed. Password > visibility is not a requirement of this criterion, but a good way of > reducing the cognitive load, so including a feature to optionally show the > password is very helpful.” > - > > On our COGA TF call, we had concerns about the use of the word > “helpful,” how this relates to “transcription” as a cognitive function > test, and whether this was going in the wrong direction. > > Proposed new response following our COGA TF meeting: > > This is a combined response from the COGA Task Force: After reading the > responses since our last comment (posted on June 24), we feel more strongly > now that this should be a requirement, but we also feel that it is not a > new requirement, and should, instead, be part of this one. > > We have come to this conclusion after re-reading the functional > definition of a cognitive function test > <https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG22/#dfn-cognitive-function-test>, which > clearly includes transcribing characters. > > SC 3.3.7 Accessible Authentication > <https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG22/#accessible-authentication> reads “For each > step in an authentication process that relies on a cognitive function test, > at least one other authentication method is available that does not rely on > a cognitive function test, or a mechanism is available to assist the user > in completing the cognitive function test.” > > The challenge is that for some individuals with cognitive disabilities, > password visibility may be essential. To frame it from a user perspective: > I need to see the password as I type it, and I need to see the password > after I type it with time to review. > > We (the COGA task force) realize that this is a challenging request and > has a lot of implications. Please advise on next steps so that we can help > bring this to resolution. > > What you, COGA task force member, need to do: > > Please either +1 or -1 this proposed new response. If -1, please indicate > why and what you would like us to do instead. If possible, please respond > before July 3 so that we can post our response before many are gone for the > holidays. > > Thank you, > > Rain > > >
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