- From: Steve Lee <steve@opendirective.com>
- Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 12:43:31 +0000
- To: Elle <nethermind@gmail.com>
- Cc: public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>, John Rochford <john.rochford@umassmed.edu>
Elle Thanks for your great work on this. 1) +1 2) +1 Steve Lee OpenDirective http://opendirective.com On 8 December 2014 at 14:40, Elle <nethermind@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, Steve: > > We've just begun our testing, but we have found that in an authenticated > state (i.e. logged into Google apps, cached indicators of identity, etc.), > both VoiceOver/Safari and NVDA/Firefox worked well. Additionally, Dragon > NaturallySpeaking (14) worked well. We're doing testing on mobile, JAWS, and > several unauthenticated scenarios this week, and we're setting up some user > testing to get real-world feedback. > > I think that there are two things that are getting confusing in the public > forums (Twitter, WebAIM, etc.): people seem to maintain that to like this > solution one must like and approve of CAPTCHA, and people express > frustration and anger at the inaccessible state of the fallback. Here's our > position on both. > > CAPTCHA is still a faulty concept. When we talk about early signs of > accessibility improvements, we aren't saying that this CAPTCHA solution > provides good for security or that it cannot be hacked. Frankly, that's not > our concern. We still believe that CAPTCHA is not ideal, since it does put a > technical problem upon the user to solve, and it's a mousetrap that's bound > to fail if the cheese is enticing enough. > > Intentional improvement, even if not 100%, is still worth praising. When we > look at scenarios that seem to require the CAPTCHA fallback, it's not an > improvement, but it's also not any different than it was before Google's > no-CAPTCHA was released. I humbly maintain that while inaccessible solutions > should not be tolerated, Google seems to be incurring wrath from even > attempting to include any accessibility improvements in their most recent > implementation. Maybe that's why they didn't even mention it in their blog > posts - what a missed opportunity to educate others about inclusive design. > I would rather encourage them to keep working at this on the unauthenticated > state until a better idea comes along. > > > Again, I'd really appreciate anyone's feedback if they've tested this. When > our next round of testing is complete, we'll publish those results on our > site (www.simplyaccessible.com). > > > All the best, > Elle > > > If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the people to gather wood, divide > the work, and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and > endless sea. > - Antoine De Saint-Exupéry, The Little Prince > > On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Steve Lee <steve@opendirective.com> wrote: >> >> Elle >> >> Thanks, that is positive. Any thing that gets us closer to forcing bots to >> prove they are human rather than us proving we are not bots is good. >> >> What's not clear from that post is if the non mouse interactions ever >> worked or if they always required the captcha fallback. I assume the latter. >> >> What of mobile use which only has touch events? Again I assume fallback >> only. >> >> Steve >> >> Autocomplete may have messed with my text >> >> On 6 Dec 2014 02:04, "Elle" <nethermind@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> All: >>> >>> We're doing a lot more testing (technical and with real users), but our >>> first round has been promising: >>> http://simplyaccessible.com/article/googles-no-captcha/ >>> >>> We'd also like to test this implementation with those who have struggled >>> with other CAPTCHA challenges from a cognitive perspective. If anyone has >>> suggestions on this, please share! >>> >>> Much appreciated, >>> Elle >>> >>> On Dec 4, 2014 7:14 AM, "Rochford, John" <john.rochford@umassmed.edu> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Google Can Now Tell You’re Not a Robot With Just One Click >>>> >>>> http://www.wired.com/2014/12/google-one-click-recaptcha/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This seems promising. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> John Rochford >>>> UMass Medical School/E.K. Shriver Center >>>> Director, INDEX Program >>>> Instructor, Family Medicine & Community Health >>>> http://www.DisabilityInfo.org >>>> Twitter: @ClearHelper >>>> >>>> > >
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