Re: Scheduling a presentation + discussion on plausible reasoning

Thanks for the suggestion, Paola, I’ve done as you suggest and invite people to edit the following markdown page on the CG’s GitHub repository:

 https://github.com/w3c/cogai/blob/master/webinars/README.md <https://github.com/w3c/cogai/blob/master/webinars/README.md>

Please feel encouraged to add agenda suggestions, provided that is, you are willing to lead that section of the webinar. The W3C Cognitive AI CG Chairs will decide on the final agenda, taking your inputs into account (Hi Ronald, hope that’s okay with you). We can then proceed to search for a good enough day and time slot.

Best regards,
Dave

> On 23 Sep 2022, at 11:32, Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Dave
> absolutely, that would be great. to open up a webinar 
> the way I see it is using your sides, your demo and a recording of the call
> if you have it, as the starting point for the discussion
> The webinar would be the opportunity to have that discussion (ie participants could ask questions to you and to other participants about the topics you bring up)
> If you open a page on the wiki, we can start jotting down talk points/questions
> that could be the basis for the agenda
> depending on how many folks have something to say, we could articulate the
> call and schedule accordingly
> I am OK with one minute per slide for a maximum of say, ten or twenty slides
> per person plus some as brief as possible discussion time
> based on the outcome, we could write something up or even start a paper
> although nothing much would come out from it, we would have the chance of sharing ideas
> and note them down for future reference, something to build on if you like
> At your convenience
> P[
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> On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 5:51 PM Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org <mailto:dsr@w3.org>> wrote:
> Hi Paola,
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> I like the idea of a webinar, and perhaps we can see if there are others who having something to present before we decide on the agenda and duration of the the call?  We may even want to throw this open to a wider audience that the Cognitive AI CG. What do you think?
> 
> p.s. I am busy working on a chapter on plausible reasoning for an upcoming IET book on personal knowledge graphs, and hope to use that as input to a white paper on behalf of the AIOTI WG Standardisation task force on semantic interoperability.
> 
> Best regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On 22 Sep 2022, at 16:12, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com <mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Dave
>> sorry the call was not well attended
>> I have taken a look at the slides - they are great and
>> the demo is full of very interesting stuff, so much work has gone into it
>> It is also relevant to AI KR -
>> I also appreciate your effort to make participation possible for us in AP timezone
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>> I have some general considerations I may be able to share, which I hope you would consider relevant to this work. I would participate in a panel, like a roundtable on the topic
>> and would prepare a few slides with the point I want to raise in
>> connection to your slides and demo
>> If the round table/panel discussion could be recorded, we could consider this
>> a webinar
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>> Evening time in AP timezone tends to be compatible with mornings in the US and lunchtime in EU
>> pdm
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>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 10:35 PM Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org <mailto:dsr@w3.org>> wrote:
>> Hmm, this didn’t seem like an effective time slot to have chosen, as there was only myself and François Daoust on the call.  I am happy to try again if this time we can get clear commitments to attend.  A call first thing in morning in Europe should be reasonable for folks in the Asia-Pacific timezone. Meanwhile, please take a look at the slides and the plausible reasoning demo (links below), and let us know what you think.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Dave
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>>> On 18 Sep 2022, at 10:34, Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org <mailto:dsr@w3.org>> wrote:
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>>> Based on the poll results, it looks like Thursday at 15:00-16:00 UK time is the best we can do. I will work with my colleagues to allocate the call and send out a meeting invite with the link.  I am happy to arrange another slot for a second call at a time more convenient for people in Asia-Pacific time zones.
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>>>> On 1 Sep 2022, at 09:16, Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org <mailto:dsr@w3.org>> wrote:
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>>>> It has been a long time since our last teleconference for the Cognitive AI Community Group, and I would like to schedule a teleconference to present the work I have been busy on in respect to plausible reasoning, including a demo [1], and to invite discussion on the conjecture that plausible reasoning and human-like AI will eventually replace the semantic web.
>>>> 
>>>> This follows on from the workshop on imperfect knowledge [2] that I co-chaired with William Van Woensel earlier this year as part of the Knowledge Graph conference (KGC-2022).  I am now looking forward to presenting the work on 12th September at the upcoming workshop on analogies: from theory to practice as part of the International Conference on Case-Based Reasoning (ICCBR) [3].
>>>> 
>>>> In essence, plausible reasoning deals with imperfect knowledge, and mimics human argumentation for and against a premise in question. The plausible knowledge notation (PKN) is a proposed format that blends symbolic graphs with qualitative metadata in lieu of detailed statistics.  The demo presents a variety of examples including reasoning with analogies. I am currently extending it to further support fuzzy quantifiers such as few, many and most. Plausible reasoning subsumes fuzzy logic and qualitative reasoning.
>>>> 
>>>> I am hoping to arrange the teleconference sometime in the week starting Monday, 19th September. Please email me directly to indicate which days and times (including timezone) are good for you, and I will then create a doodle poll to select the best slot.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Dave
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>>>> [1] https://www.w3.org/Data/demos/chunks/reasoning/ <https://www.w3.org/Data/demos/chunks/reasoning/> 
>>>> [2] https://www.knowledgegraph.tech/kgc-2022-workshop-representing-and-reasoning-with-imperfect-knowledge/ <https://www.knowledgegraph.tech/kgc-2022-workshop-representing-and-reasoning-with-imperfect-knowledge/> 
>>>> [3] https://iccbr2022.loria.fr/analogies/ <https://iccbr2022.loria.fr/analogies/> 
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