Re: Forbes on next generation of AI

Hay Dave and all
I think that what is being proposed as the future of AI is promoting
certain technical advances which are interesting but far from being
intelligence, for a number of reasons which I expound elsewhere
It is not AI, in the sense of autonomous intelligence, This intelligence is
just the result of some clevel algorithm and execution of
sophisticated maths. It is not intelligent at all,
as you point out, it fails basic intelligence tests :-) It cannot produce
anything that has not been encoded. It has no such ability.
We should not confuse advanced computation with intelligence
Can these methods deliver useful computational results and be applied
usefully?
Yes.  Are they intelligent? They Only encode some of the cognitive
functions of their developers
as well its limitations (Ie, if the programmer had designed a system
capable of answering out of the box questions, the AI would be able to
answer it)

Intelligence by contrast is innate reasoning. Nobody programs the innate
intelligence of sentient being other than perhaps the brain washing that
comes with education/learning and its constraints
The question then is, can such natural intelligence be engineered?
It s not needed, and it is not desirable because innate intelligence in
human
is often suppressed and even punished. When individuals use their
intelligence they
start questioning the purpose of the machine/s (including society, imposed
norms)

It s a long discussion
I reject that what is being purported as AI is intelligence at all
Sitting naked in the forest, ergo sum

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On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 10:24 PM Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org> wrote:

> What do you think about the ideas in Forbes article on the next generation
> of AI?
>
> See:
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/robtoews/2020/10/12/the-next-generation-of-artificial-intelligence/
>
> Forbes believe in unsupervised learning, federated learning, and
> transformers for neural networks.
>
> Unsupervised learning (aka self-supervised learning) is based on
> “predicting everything from everything else”, e.g. language models from
> billions of documents. This avoids the bottleneck of having to label data
> for supervised learning, and is more flexible in allowing the learning
> system to figure out its own labels and "being able to explore and absorb
> all the latent information, relationships and implications in a given
> dataset.”
>
> Federated learning is about services that support privacy friendly machine
> learning by a third party across training data without having to transfer
> the data to that party. Instead, the learning process is applied locally to
> the data, and the results transmitted to the third party for aggregation
> with the overall model.
>
> Transformers are a technique for learning across sequences of things, e.g.
> words in text or frames of video, that is readily executed in parallel and
> computationally more efficient that previous techniques. This was first
> applied to language models to predict text following a previous text
> extract (e.g. BERT and GPT-3), but is now being applied more widely. e.g.
> to video.
>
> Whilst GPT-3 is pretty amazing in the quality of the text it can generate,
> it is limited in the kinds of reasoning it can apply. It knows simple
> generalisations, but is very limited in respect to reasoning about time,
> and is unaware as to what it doesn’t know. As an example, asking for the
> sum of two large numbers returns a large number, but not the actual sum,
> asking for the US president in 1610 returns a historical figure rather than
> stating that the question doesn’t make sense as the USA wasn’t in existence
> then.
>
> This is unsurprising as language models are not the same as higher level
> reasoning that children are taught at school and through interaction with
> their parents and peers.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org> http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett
> W3C Data Activity Lead & W3C champion for the Web of things
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