- From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
- Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 01:25:23 +0000
- To: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
- Cc: david.bolter@gmail.com, janina@rednote.net, jcraig@apple.com, public-canvas-api@w3.org
aloha, rich!
thanks for the explanation -- i will take the demo and try hearing
what JAWS 12 and IE9 beta can and can't add to the user experience
i described and will post results and pointers, gregory.
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---------- Original Message -----------
From: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>
Cc: david.bolter@gmail.com, janina@rednote.net, jcraig@apple.com, public-
canvas-api@w3.org
Sent: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:24:26 -0600
Subject: Re: testing the CanvasEditor attachment with JAWS12 and IE9 beta
(was: Reworked Canvas 2D API using our revised DrawFocusRing)
> Hi Gregory,
>
> Thanks for giving it a spin. I think I know the main problem. We
> are using the HTML 5 labelling mechanism:
>
> <label><input type=checkbox id=showA> Show As</label>
> <label><input type=checkbox id=showB> Show Bs</label>
>
> versus the standard:
>
> <input type="checkbox" id="foo" />
> <label for="foo">Show As</label>
>
> So, either IE does not map the accessibility API properly or
> JAWS simply does not handle this. I will send the example off to
> Freedom Scientific. Freedom Scientific does not yet support HTML
> 5 in their products.
>
> Rich
>
> Rich Schwerdtfeger
> CTO Accessibility Software Group
>
> From: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>
> To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS,
> public-canvas-api@w3.org
> Cc: david.bolter@gmail.com, jcraig@apple.com, janina@rednote.net
> Date: 11/24/2010 12:30 PM
> Subject: testing the CanvasEditor attachment with JAWS12 and IE9
> beta
> (was: Reworked Canvas 2D API using our revised
> DrawFocusRing)
>
> aloha, rich!
>
> using IE9 beta and JAWS 12 (latest official release) i can minimally
> access the contents of
>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-
> api/2010OctDec/att- 0035/CanvasEditor.html
>
> 1. when i issue a ReadAll command, i hear: "Show As Show Bs";
>
> 2. when i tab navigate to the document via the IE9 chrome, i
> hear: "Show As Show Bs";
>
> 3. when i tab navigate the document itself, i hear: "Show As" --
> a subsequent tab does not cause JAWS to announce the second item
> in the canvas ("show Bs")
>
> 3A. if i tab navigate the document itself, whilst nothing is announced
> when i tab a second time, a DownArrow causes JAWS to speak "Show
> Bs";
>
> 4. the checkboxes which the document source indicates should be included
> in the canvas element are totally invisible to JAWS;
>
> 5. i could not determine if pressing the SPACEBAR while on 1 of
> the 2 checkboxes activated the checkbox;
>
> 6. i could not use JAWS' checkbox hot key (x) to access either
> checkbox;
>
> 7. using the "List of Form Controls" command (INSERT+F5) i
> received a list of two items:
>
> check box not checked
> check box not checked
>
> but only the existence and state of the checkboxes are reported,
> not their labels ("Show As" and "Show Bs"); when i attempted to select
> one of the checkboxes using this mechanism, a recheck of the
> "list of form controls" indicated that the checkbox remained unchecked
>
> 7A. i could not activate either checkbox using the "List of Form
> Controls"
>
> let me know if you want/need more testing
>
> hope this helps, gregory.
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> -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
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> Gregory J. Rosmaita, oedipus@hicom.net
> Vice-Chair, Webmaster & Listmaster: Open Accessibility
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