- From: Andreas Tolfsen <ato@sny.no>
- Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2017 14:13:19 +0000
- To: public-browser-tools-testing@w3.org
- Cc: James Graham <james@hoppipolla.co.uk>
Also sprach James Graham: > One thing that is being adopted by other specs to great success > is to require that spec changes come with an accompanying test > change, where possible (i.e. excluding things that don't affect > the normative requirements). This has a number of advantages: > > * We have confidence that the spec has at least basic tests > for everything. * We don't get stuck in the current situation > of trying to retro-fit tests onto an existing spec. * It is > immediately clear to implementors if a spec change requires a > corresponding change in their implementation. * It is clear to > spec authors if they are introducing a change that unexpectedly > breaks existing implementations. It’s hard to be opposed to a process that will increase test coverage for changes or new features, however I have a couple of practical questions. Large sections of the spec is currently untested. Does this mean it is a requirement for the change to come with a full test suite for that section? I can see this would hinder or discourage rightful improvements, if making the change also means one has to spend another week filling out the missing test gaps. I would very much be fine with an iterative approach where one tries to add a specific test for the change one is making, without worrying too much about the existing lack of coverage. Would tests submitted in downstream repositories, i.e. mozilla-central, be acceptable? As someone working directly on implementations, it is often more convenient to rely on Mozilla’s CI when writing tests because they can immediately be annotated with their expected pass/failure metadata. This brings me on to my final concern, that upstream test changes take a long time before reaching downstream browser vendor repositories. When I make a specification change I often try to ensure the implementation doesn’t lag too far behind. If I can submit the tests to m-c when making the spec change this won’t a problem, but waiting for a WPT update would mean implementations will lag behind somewhat, considering we can’t land changes to geckodriver without sufficient test coverage.
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