- From: Simon Stewart <simon.m.stewart@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 11:36:38 +0100
- To: James Graham <james@hoppipolla.co.uk>
- Cc: "public-browser-tools-testing@w3.org" <public-browser-tools-testing@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAOrAhYGs3HCJJZNMOWst1E_GNa36QYjgZ5BmJiUQ+mtzJF1REA@mail.gmail.com>
I'm in favour of this. It'll also help us in the case where the meaning of the spec text isn't clear --- at least there's an alternative description of the expected behaviour. Simon On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 11:31 AM, James Graham <james@hoppipolla.co.uk> wrote: > Now that L1 is mostly done, it's time to start thinking about how we can > learn from the experience and improve the process for future work. > > One thing that is being adopted by other specs to great success is to > require that spec changes come with an accompanying test change, where > possible (i.e. excluding things that don't affect the normative > requirements). This has a number of advantages: > > * We have confidence that the spec has at least basic tests for everything. > * We don't get stuck in the current situation of trying to retro-fit tests > onto an existing spec. > * It is immediately clear to implementors if a spec change requires a > corresponding change in their implementation. > * It is clear to spec authors if they are introducing a change that > unexpectedly breaks existing implementations. > > I think the last points in particular are compelling. Although this seems > like more work upfront, the feedback I have heard from specs like HTML and > DOM is that requiring tests along with spec changes speeds up the overall > specification process, because it's more likely that changes stick and > aren't reverted later due to unforeseen compat issues. It also means that > specification changes are more likely to reflected in implementations > quickly (since there's an obvious failing test to fix), so it helps avoid > the situation where a change is made and then implementations do nothing > (because they simply didn't notice) and eventually it is reverted (or, > worse, some implementations notice and make a fix and others don't, and > clients end up relying on the behavioural differences). > > I strongly recommend that we adopt this requirement or writing tests for > all post-L1 spec changes. > >
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