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Re: Incomplete URI in DOCTYPE HTML 4.01 Transitional Validates

From: Sangwhan Moon <smoon@opera.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:45:05 +0900
Cc: public-bpwg@w3.org
Message-Id: <8B8BC9E3-3AD8-4827-B60D-F82E8475DE51@opera.com>
To: mrwizkid <mrwizkid@gmail.com>
Hi,

Which validator are you referring to? If it's for the markup validator  
it should go to the www-validator list.

Cheers,
Sangwhan

On 2009/09/16, at 1:43 PM, mrwizkid wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I would like to to know why does the w3c validator validate a  
> website as being 100% compliant if it has a missing or invalid URI ?
>
> I have found that whether a website has or does not have a valid URI  
> it still validates i noticed this for HTML 4.01 Transitional  
> DOCTYPES i have not tried others.
>
> We all know that if there is an invalid or missing URI it will put  
> IE browsers in QuirksMode which means that not all code will work  
> correctly like i have found with some Csscode i used in one of my  
> recent projects. Because of this shouldnt w3c validator NOT make a  
> site 100% compliant i know that for the most part if you had a  
> missing or invalid URI such as the following
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>
> Most browsers will still work and even IE will work to come extent  
> but depending on the code used will it depend on the unexpected  
> results.
>
> By adding the URI eg
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd 
> ">
>
> This resolves the issues in IE browsers as it wont put the browser  
> in QuirksMode and therefor display the page correctly.
>
> For this reason i will argue that the w3c validator should not make  
> a site 100% compatible and at the very least give a WARNING about  
> the possibility of a page not rendering properly if there is a  
> missing or invalid URI.
>
> Please let me know your thoughts are some explanation to this theory ?
>
> Thanks.

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